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Already missed the deer 11 times, you should pack the sucker in at that point. You dont deserve to have a gun period youre that bad. As the Obama Administration builds up for the legislative battle, a new poll shows 56 of americans favor stricter gun laws. And the same poll shows the National Rifle association with a higher approval than hollywood. The nras had some good days and bad days in this. And actually that depends on how you look at it. Even when the nra has a bad day. And the media is calling them too aggressive. Thats a good day for the nra, that usually ends up working in their favor in terms of membership. Joining me now is Los Angeles Mayor antonio villaraigosa. Its great to have you with me this morning. And the president is going to have two very big opportunities to sell the country on his proposals about gun violence. First the inaugural address on monday and the state of the union address. As we mentioned, he is turning obama for america into this organization for action and Vice President joe biden made this promise to you and your colleagues at the mayors conference yesterday. I want to show everybody. Take a listen. Were going to take this fight to the halls of congress. Were going to take it beyond that. Were going to take it to the American People. Were going to go around the country, making our case, and were going to let their voices the voices of the American People be heard. Sir, what do you think this organization is actually going to be able to accomplish . Do you think it can match what the Obama Reelection Campaign was able to do . Yes, i do. And ill tell you why, this really isnt about the power of the presidency versus the power of the nra. Its about the power of the people. And as youve seen in poll after poll since newtown, theres about a 16point increase in the number of people from about 39 to 54 number of people who believe that we need smarter gun control legislation. About 90 of americans think we need universal background checks. As you know, 40 of all sales that occur occur between private dealers and no background check is required. They want tougher laws against people who legally buy guns and then sell them to people who cant. They want better coordination between the federal, state, and local governments. They want smart, safe, responsible gun legislation. And we can have that. Theres a majority support for banning assault weapons and highcapacity magazines. And as the president said, as the Vice President said, rather, if you a highcapacity magazine of ten or more bullets to shoot a deer, youre in the wrong sport. Sir, one thing that has been interested is to hear the voices when theyre coming out of the woodwork about what side theyre falling on. Governor of new jersey Chris Christie has had an interesting approach after seeing the nra ad that targeted the president s kids. Take a listen. To talk about the president s children or any public officers children who have not by their own choice, but by requirement to have protection and to use that somehow to try to make a political point i think is reprehensible. Obviously being a lobbying institution trying to make sure that gun manufacturers have the ability to sell whatever kind of guns to the americans that are able to buy them. And in all of this, mayor, the conversation to the Second Amendment certainly comes up. And i know recently you had a harsh message to those in congress that want to interpret the Second Amendment in special ways that allow for this. Well, look, first o all, let me say i agree with governor christie. Shame on you Wayne Lapierre and the nra for putting out an ad like that. The children of elected officials should be off the table. They shouldnt be part of the debate. They havent proposed these new rules and new proposals, rather, new initiatives. The president has. And hes fair game, but his kids arent. With respect to what ive said about the congress, they need to be able to walk and chew gum at the same time. They need to get off their duff with their 12 rating and understand the reason why they have the kind of Approval Rating that they do today is because they havent done enough to work across the aisle. Look, this is an area that where there could and should be bipartisan support for sensible legislation. Universal background checks, there shouldnt be a disagreement about that. Better federal state, local coordination. There shouldnt be a debate about that. There are things that we can do and move forward and things that the congress should do. Thats what the people of this country expect them to do. Los angeles mayor antonio villaraigo villaraigosa. We have aaron blake, political reporter for the Washington Post. Jen sakke, former press secretary for the obama 2012 campaign. And republican strategist john fehrig. Good to have you here. Good morning. Just listening to the mayor talk there really draws the, i guess, pulls the veil back on exactly what is being discussed here when it comes to common sense approaches to just even background checks and the from the right. How the president and the administration is shifting gears for organization for action. Take a look. The president has the most Exciting Campaign apparatus ever built. Its time to turn that loose. Right. Its time to turn that loose for something more than just an election. Right . If the nras got a list, then obama for america has a bigger list. All right. So jen, you know firsthand exactly what it looks like to be a part of that campaign operation. Give us the insider details of how this is really going to work when its not a campaignstyle approach for reelection, but a campaignstyle approach to get america to support gun control legislation. Well, thomas, i think everybody in the obama orbit, people in the building, but people who are supporters from the outside understand this is a very unique moment in time on gun control and the ability to move something forward, move an agenda forward. Theyre going to take advantage of that. The question here, i think the possibilities for this Obama Administration is endless. The president is the first one to kind of admit and really embrace, and that is the power of the American People. So how can they utilize this group, the following, the support people have had for his reelection and turn that into something that can help push an agenda forward . And in this case, its embracing this moment in time, which is an increasing support for gun control legislation. So now as we look at that new nbc news wall street journal poll, i want to show everybody where the president sits in his Approval Rating right now at 52 , 44 disapprove. But this was really interesting where the president hits at very good ratings over 50 . If we look at the categories that fly up on the screen here, easy going and likable at 61 understands the average people. Aaron, how does the president capitalize on what we all witnessed for reelection. But based on these numbers . These are strong figures for the president coming in for his second term . I really think thats what the president has going for him. Towards the end of the election, he saw his Approval Rating drop quite a bit. But hes always been a pretty popular person as far as the American People are concerned. Theyve always thought he was sincere, that he was a good leader, things like that. So i think that thats why youre seeing him go out and talk to the American People more as opposed to negotiating with congress. I think he thinks that the power of his personality is really kind of his biggest bargaining chip in this whole gun control debate. Gang, if we can put that back up there. I want to show everybody. Understands average people at 53 , inspirational exciting, 53 . Strong Leadership Qualities at 53 . Good commander in chief at 51 . But understands the average people, 53 . Thats interesting to look at there. And john, i want to talk to you about this. Across this country, we know that there are wide supporters of the Second Amendment and certainly for the nra. But one of the biggest hills, maybe, that the president will have to climb is from pro gun democrats. Right. In washington, d. C. I just want to play for you an ad thats currently running right now about a progun democrat. Take a look. For as long as i can remember, my father always had this rifle real handy. Someones shooting in the building. He came in we are told with at least three weapons. Multiple weapons. So, john, that was a liberal group, the coalition to End Gun Violence targeting representative a democrat from georgia. Hes a progun guy. We have senator harry reid, pro gun guy who is the majority leader of the senate and john boehner, the house is squarely going to deliver all of this right at harry reids feet. What do Senate Democrats who are progun do . And is that the easiest achilles heel for those on the right to target them . Well, thats exactly right, thomas. I think the biggest problem for the president and his gun agenda will be harry reid and all the Senate Democrats up for reelection next time around. I think what john boehner and the House Republicans are going to say is well take this up as soon as the Senate Passes it. And i would guarantee you that its going to be very difficult to get this through the senate. Senator reid has not come out four square behind the president s proposals. My guess is he won the his last election chiefly because he got the nras endorsement. Hes not going to necessarily want to turn his back. Because if he does turn his back on the nra. And not just about the nra. I would say the nra has done a very good job of delegitimatizing itself with these ads. But that doesnt mean theres not a huge power of gun owners in a loot of these states, especially in red states and harry reids got to worry about that as he comes into the next election. All right, gang, i want to say that we need to welcome Michael Steele aboard. We have wedged him into this conversation. There he is. Mr. Steele, its good to have you onboard. Good to be with you. Were going to shift topics because a lot of talk has been made about this gop retreat. Let me get everybody up to speed on thisment republican lawmakers going to be meeting in williamsburg coming up for three days the main agenda there is looking at how to broaden the tent. How to bring in more minority voters, how to bring in more women on this. Michael, theyre really getting beat across the nose on this one because they are apparently doing this in a place where it is named for a former slave owner. And so the irony of going here to hold the meetings, whats your reaction to that . Well, look, you know, its kind of hard to sort of focus in on that part of it and where theyre meeting. What im more concerned about is the substance they do afterwards. At the end of the day, thomas, this is not about having a meeting and saying nice platitudes about outreach and a word i hate. This is about engagement. This is about communication, this is about sharing values and principles and connecting them to real people and everyday situations. Lets talk about how we lift the poor out of poverty and prosperity and how we level the Playing Field using the instruments and tools of the free market enterprise system. We moved away from that argument and that is that transcends generation, that transcends race, that transcends class. And i think its an opportunity for the party to get out of its comfort zone here and really engage people where they are and stop pretending at doing outreach as they like to call it. So, you know, well see what the substance of the plan is, the rncs coming up with some kind of autopsy of the last election. You dont need to be a Rocket Scientist to figure out you lost every possible demographic there is. Have you read this piece in the Washington Examiner where he talks about what this meeting is going to be about. And from an insider that is involved with this retreat, they say were trying to be like richard nixon, says this republican insider. Weve got a secret plan to win the war. But we cant tell you what that is. Michael, is there an intellectual problem within the Republican Party . If were looking to tricky dick to solve problems of the right . Well, look, the intellectual problem in the party if you have a secret plan you cant share with anybody. Is that like double secret probation in animal house . Thats it. It does not exist, though. Thats the problem. Youre not serious. And so lets get serious. I know during my chairmanship we tried through coalitions throughout the country to build a grass roots effort and it won elections and it lifted us from 26 approval to over 50 approval with the voters. They followed our lead. Weve got to get back into that sweet spot again. And you dont do it with secret plans. Lets look at say Approval Rating again out of the wall street journal poll. For congress, the job Approval Rating is at 14 . And, jen, in the Washington Post today Charles Krauthammer talking about how president obama has successfully been neutering republican members of the house. Again, from your insiders perspective, is that you guys talk about in secret meetings . How to neuter those on the right . Look, i dont think its possible to neuter the right. So i dont think thats the goal. Look, i will say because i want to touch on something you were just talking about. In that this is not if i were advising the republicans, i would say this is not about tactics or poll tested talking points. This is about what is your agenda . Do you support equal pay for women . Do you support comprehensive Immigration Reform . So its i think within the democratic party, its hard to understand why they keep having meetings about their tactics when really they need to take a look at how theyre not identifying with or relating to the demographics of the country. Hey, thomas, can i say real quick to jen on that point. Youre absolutely right. And if you disagree with the things that jen just outlined there as is part of the republican talking point if you will, tell us why, and explain why what youre proposing as an alternative is better. And that piece is always missing. I want to say thanks to our supersized panel today. My thanks to all four of you. I really appreciate your time. We are still keeping our eyes on that tense situation that weve been reporting on algeria where some hostages are being held, possibly americans, and some of the other hostages were able to escape. An unknown amount, though, have been killed. Well bring you full details ahead. Plus, one big lie. Lance armstrong admitting to using performanceenhancing drugs for every single one of his Tour De France victories. What all this means for his future. And is he forgivable . Does Lance Armstrong deserve a Second Chance around . Tweet me thomasaroberts or find me on facebook. [ male announcer ] this is sheldon, whose long dy setting up the news starts with arthritis pain and a choice. Take tylenol or take aleve, the 1 recommended pain reliever by orthopedic doctors. Just two aleve can keep pain away all day. Back to the news. So it is the interview heard around the world, Lance Armstrong finally admitting his cycling career was built on doping and deceit. He confessed to using performanceenhancing drugs in a oneonone interview with oprah winfrey. Did you ever take banned substances to enhance your cycling performance . Yes. Yes or no, was one of those banned substances epo . Yes. Did you ever blood dope or use blood transfusions to enhance your cycling performance . Yes. Did you ever use any other banned substances like testosterone, cortisone or Human Growth Hormone . Yes. Yes or no, in all seven of your Tour De France victories, did you ever take banned substances or blood dope . Yes. So it is the interview that everybodys talking about today. Joining me in studio from nbc sports, rob, its great to have you here. And it seemed more like a deposition going before oprah right there to answer these yes and no questions and come out of the gate. But the thing we were talking about in the break is this has ruined so many lives. People trampled over by trying to tell the truth about Lance Armstrong and he was a big bully to keeping them quiet. I want to play another piece of sound of the interview where he talks about that directly. Take a listen. I was a bully in the sense that i tried to control the narrative. And if i didnt like what somebody said and for whatever reasons in my own head, whether i viewed that as somebody being disloyal or a friend turning on you or whatever, i tried to control that and said thats a lie, theyre liars. And rob, that worked for a very long time. Amazing how long it worked for. And you know, we knew that this confession was coming in this interview, but it was still unbelievable to see the words and hear the words yes come out of his mouth when oprah started the interview with those questions. And from that moment on, the interview was an interview with the least credible man in the world. And every single thing that came out of his mouth you had to take with a grain of salt. But i to your point, thomas, he was so aggressive, so bullying in his pursuit of people who told the truth over so many years. Its just hard to see how anyone now can see him as rehabilitated because now in 2013 he finally admits to doping. When people look at the motives behind this, so he can compete in the sanctioned events. So they look over triathlons he wants to try to win purses from. Profiling his decades of denials and saying Lance Armstrong, the worlds biggest liar . He sets another record for the most pinnoccios ever. Whats the reaction there . No, the consensus is hes going to have a very hard time ever recovering from this. Because of the length and the fortitude of his lies. One moment where he choked up a little bit last night was when oprah played for him a part of his victory speech from the last Tour De France that he won. And hes holding the microphone and hes got this moment on the stage. He knows hes retiring, and the last thing he says in france is i didnt dope. And its too bad that all of you out there cant believe in this miracle of my life. Hes living with this lie and marketing this lie his entire life. And yes, some good things came of that lie, the charity he set up for cancer survivors obviously was a positive thing. But it was all built on these lies. When we look at what the usa today puts out today saying can you forgive, america, about Second Chances, will lance get his . The comebacks of athletes like tiger woods, michael vick, kobe bryant. Why is lance different from those guys . Well, its a great question. I think part of it is that he he wasnt very sympathetic last night. You know, this was not the typical oprah interview where there were tears and you felt bad for him at some point. At no point did i feel any sympathy for him in that interview. It was the same calculated person that had really put this tale of lies together for all these years. And i dont know that Lance Armstrong is capable of really coming off as a sympathetic person. I dont think its in him. So it was calculated to lie all those years and in my opinion, thomas, it was calculated to finally tell the truth. And round two comes on own tonight. The other big story, id like to have you off the top of the show today, we had so much going on today, manti teos trouble, the notre dame linebacker who had the fake girlfriend, the death of her. People around the country posting pictures of themselves teoing. He knew she wasnt dead but then went on to espn to talk about it right before the Heisman Trophy was awarded. Take a listen. You mentioned the tragedy, you lose your grandmother and your girlfriend in the same week. Same day. What do you think both of those ladies would say to you being a Heisman Trophy finalist. I i hope that my grandma and my girlfriend would say theyre proud. Not only that im here but the way that i conducted myself and just always to remain humble, be gracious and always to acknowledge heavenly father above all things. Great player. Hes a great player. Now theyve got the video of him driving a golf cart on that compound down in florida because hes waiting for the nfl draft. He gave his statement saying im so embarrassed but i want to focus on the draft. What are his chances now . Is he still going to go in the top ten . Well, he was never really projected to be a top five or top ten guy. As a linebacker, its unclear where hell go. It depends on whether this story hes telling about being a victim holds together or not. If it turns out he was behind this hoax, that he was a part of this hoax, i think his draft stock at that point will fall because now youve got real character issues, youve got questions that will be dogging him well into his career. So i think that will really determine where he gets drafted. And hes got to come out and speak about this and explain at length with a reporter asking questions what happened. And no word yet on whether theres any confirmed sitdowns. I know a lot of people have their offers out there. There was a rumor he was going to and then he pulled back. Hes got no plans published to speak. Hes got to speak. There are too many questions about the time line, things said at different times. A strange story. Thanks so much from nbc sports. That was great, thank you. Coming up, democrats divided over gun control legislation, especially over the assault weapons ban. 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Now get a 169 per month lease on a new nissan sentra, plus 500 Holiday Bonus cash. Eric holder prepares to address gun control, congressional lawmakers are prepping for whats shaping up to be a long road to passing any form of legislation backed by president obama. Joining me now, congressman bobby scott, a democrat from virginia. Hes also vice chair of the Congressional Gun Violence Prevention Task force. Congressman, its great to have you here. And during president obamas announcement this week, he charged lawmakers to worry more about their constituents than their nra rating. I want to point out to you that you got an f rating by the nra. But as we take a look at this chart, it highlights the Campaign Donations to Democratic Senators who are either on the fence about the president s plans or refusing to comment about those plans. They include harry reid, senator joe manchin, the only senator on that list that received a Campaign Contribution from the nra. What do you think is the big reason behind the division among Senate Democrats . Well, in the studio i cant see the list you just put up, but just let me say that this is not a new issue. Gun safety has been an issue that everybody deals with over the years and some have come to a conclusion on the issue. So its the public, i think, has taken a different view of the issue after newtown. You had 20 children, bodies riddled with bullets. Some of the previous positions may not hold. I think youve also got a situation where 75 of the public now support an assault weapons ban. But thats not the only issue before us. You have the size of the magazines. Many people have suggested that the size of the magazine is more important an issue than the weapon. Most of the Mass Shootings have been interrupted during the time theyre trying to change magazines. And that gives you limiting the magazine i think may have more of an impact in the weapon itself. Gaby giffords situation, i believe, was a handgun with a huge magazine. And they were able to get off many bullets with just a handgun. And so the size of the magazine is extremely important. But there are other issues too. Sir, i want to ask you, though, when it comes to mental health, thats a big point of all of this. And a lot of people have been talking about that component of it. But you are the vice chair of the Congressional Gun Violence Task force. However, your colleague, bob goodlat of virginia, congressman is also now the chair of the house judiciary, which is going to oversee any types of regulations of the 113th. He said last month there is no appetite for this. So is he the biggest obstacle to seeing something progressively move forward through what we know to be is pretty choppy waters there in d. C. Right now. Welm, i think people made different statements over the last few weeks as to what might happen. I think most have suggested that a normal process for legislation could take place. But, i mean, you cant focus just on the assault weapons ban part of it. Youve got plenty health, also violence prevention generally. The attorney general, i think you just mentioned a report that was issued a few days before the newtown tragedy. How you can reduce violence generally, children to problems associated with children exposed to violence. And they went to Great Lengths to show you can with evidencebased approaches reduce violence. The youth promise act is supported by a lot of youth juvenile justice organizations. It seems to eliminate what the Childrens Defense Fund calls the cradle to prison pipeline and replace it with a cradle to college and career pipeline by investing in children. Every time you do that using evidencebased approaches, you significantly reduce crime and save more money than you spend. The fact of the matter is, my friend at the university of virginia frequently mentions. If your School Shooting Prevention Program begins when the shooter is at the door, its too late. Now, you have to reduce violence generally, you have to talk about the mental health. And if youve got a troubled child thats trying to mass an arsenal of weapons to shoot somebody, youve got to intervene before they show up at the door. I mean, theres a lot that we can do that can protect our children. And we shouldnt be focused on just one. I support the assault weapons ban. I dont think i supported it when it came in 20 years ago. I opposed the expiration that should have been continued. Thats just one, the magazines, mental health, and prevention. Congressman bobby scott, thanks so much for your time today. I do appreciate it. I want to bring in now to the conversation jimmy williams. He is our senate and congressional guru. When you hear the congressman there talking about this, and we know that bob goodlat is going to be overseeing gun regulations, the biggest obstacle is over on the left. Senate dems, harry reid, pro gun, how does anything get done . Welm, its a great question. And the house has its own ball of wax which is it is controlled by the republicans and the republicans arent going to want to move any kind of gun control that the nras not going to support. That means dead on arrival there. Senator reid is going to have to bring up a bill at some point. He made some comments to his local press outlets this past week or this week where he said its going to be a tough sled and hes going to have to bring it up and see what happens. But hes not going to move anything that the house wont pass. If the house is controlled by republicans, how in the heck is he going to get anything done in the senate . I think what he has to do, he has to build consensus. And the white house will go on a great sort of campaign correct. And get this done. And whats going to happen is, theyll build consensus, hell bring a bill to the floor and then well see where these things come down on clips on assault weapons on the mental health. All these different parts moving parts have to get into one bill. Thats the hardest part. Will it be filibustered . What will what role will republicans play . Moderate republicans, moderate democrats. And thats the big question. Jimmy williams, great to have you on to talk strategy, sir, i appreciate it. An ongoing rescue attempt in algeria topping our look at stories making the news now. State tv reporting military forces are saying nearly 100 foreign hostages have been freed from the Al Qaedalinked kidnappers, but some are unaccounted for. Were going to get perspective on that situation. Nbc terror analyst joins me coming up. In colorado, though, the scene of the Aurora Movie Theater shooting is back in business. 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Joining me now, terrorism analyst evan coleman. Its great to have you here. And as weve been going off these reports, the algerian state tv networks saying crews have freed 100 hostages, some unaccounted for. What more can you tell us about that . Theres a lot of murkiness right now about exactly who is free and who is not. Theres been reports from the kidnappers themselves who called into a local media station and said theyre holding a total of seven hostages, including at least two americans. Its no the clear whether or not thats accurate or whether thats a total number. The sad part here is i think were looking at a definite casualty figure. Were looking at people who lost their lives in this. Its not clear who they are yet. The good news is that even the kidnappers seem to say that the americans are still alive. And so that lets hope thats indeed accurate. What more do we know about the hostage takers and motives . What their demands are . Supposedly the latest demand is they want the freeing of the and they want the liberation of sadiki who was a bostonbased doctor captured working with al qaeda. Its not clear, though, thats their real demand. Because this group before has come out with similar demands just to use it as political lemp leverage. So its not really clear they think they can get him freed from prison here in the u. S. Or a way of trying to get the u. S. Government to fork over cash instead of freeing these al qaeda prisoners. When we hear secretary of defense leon panetta say were monitoring this situation, were on top of it, what does that really mean . With getting out what would be americans that are caught in the crossfire of that situation . Well, there is a bit of sensitivity here. The government have got rn burned in the past when theyve worked with the european governments, gone in and paid very large ransom payments in order to get their hostages freed and as a result theyve gotten tons of money and perpetuated itself over and over. So the algerians are reluctant to allow direct involvement and reluctant to let too much information out. I think the reality is, though, the algerians are facing a difficult situation. I think theres going to be very disturbing details that are going to come out. Its a matter of time. But in the meantime, algerians are struggling with the remaining kidnappers. Supposedly the leader of the kidnappers is dead. A number of prominent members of jihadi groups with them are dead. Its not clear how many of these folks are remaining or what their leadership stratus is. But there are still kidnappers and there is still a hostage situation. Evan kohlmann appreciate it. Well be right back after this. Stick around. 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And things are looking up with the Housing Market including the most famous house in america, the white house zillow now saying its worth about 295 million, thats up 7 since the beginning of the president s first term. The final preps are underway for the second inauguration of president barack obama with a private ceremony swearing in for sunday. Then on monday in washington, the parties with the second swearing in at the capitol, the parades, the balls. Joining me now, a former National Press secretary for the obama 2012 campaign. Ben, good to see you. I know youve been a busy man trying to get this together. So the festivities as we explained to everybody, they actually start tomorrow. Explain what starts ahead of the big parade on monday . Sure. Well, one of the differences between this inaugural and some past inaugurals is the national day of service which will take place in all 50 states beginning tomorrow. Weve had staff in all 50 states organizing this. So even if youre at home, you can participate in the inaugural celebration. This will be neighbors giving back to their communities to kick off the celebration, a tradition that the president , the first lady established the last time around. And what they hope will carry on to future inaugurals. Tomorrow night, therell be a childrens inaugural concert dedicated to the children of military families, particularly those Service Members who have been serving abroad these past four years. I just wanted to say, though, as we look at the whats heading, i guess, starting off the weekend, but what we do know is the president s going to be taking the official oath on sunday. But the ceremony on monday is what the public is going to see. But is it true or not . Our Pete Williams saying by the time the president is finished hell have recited this four different times . Well, thats right, as you know two runs at it during the first inaugural in 2009. And the swearing in is actually constitutionally mandated. It has to take place on the 20th at noon, so that will be a small private ceremony at the white house. The president will be using the Robinson Family bible for that on monday during the public ceremony, hell be using both abraham lincolns bible and dr. Kings bible. Obviously a heavy amount of symbolism there. And chief Justice John Roberts helms both of those . Thats right and the first hispanic justice on the Supreme Court Sonia Sotomayor will to g take on. We had jen saki leading off the top of the show, your former colleague, as you guys were out on the road for the campaign, and we know that the president is now relaunching his Campaign Efforts for his second term to get the agenda across, leading off with gun control. Do you think that organizing for action will actually work, that the catalyst of newtown combined with that of the machine that is the president s reelection style could work to get the american support the president feels he needs . I absolutely think so. 90 of the public thinks there should be universal background checks. You go to members of congress and they say i cant vote for that. Im fearful of the mra and the organizing efforts that they would put together in my community, my congressional district. We know its time to align where Public Opinion is, to manifest support behind that and to show members of congress that americans are ready to mobilize behind a cause like this, that what were doing isnt working, that these incidents have happened again and again over the years. We know what we can do to solve these problems, and now youre going to see all those people who have been organizing their communities for the past couple of years on behalf of the campaign, contact their members of congress, and organize in their communities on behalf of the legislative agenda. I think its a necessary effort, and i think that it can be a very powerful effort. All right. So, ben, after tuesday hopefully youre going to get 34 sleep, but whats coming up next for you . Well, thats something ill figure out on Tuesday Morning and think about it. I got to drain the last few years from my system first sdwloosh. Hopefully youll get a good nights sleep. Thank you. We appreciate it. Tune in monday right here on msnbc. The place for politics. Im up next, but now im singing the heartburn blues. Hold on, prilosec isnt for fast relief. Cue up alkaseltzer. It stops heartburn fast. Oh what a relief it is [ male announcer ] why do more emergency workers everywhere trust duracell. . . 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