and until black lives matter and covid hit, the studio system realized from all of us speaking out, all of us, and giving stats, why are we missing? 'cause it's not for lack of trying or talent. it's lack of access. - yeah. - because we're not in the pipeline. white shows, white movies, white plays are in a pipeline. - mm, yeah. - hundreds of stories being developed, half of them don't make it, three-quarters of them will get canceled, but they're allowed to fail. it's only, like, one-offs like myself, lin-manuel, cherise, creating our own stuff and forcing it through. - but unfortunately what happens is we put all our hopes and dreams on the shoulders of a john leguizamo, a lin-manuel miranda. everyone that gets a shot at it, we're like, "please," like, "represent for all of us." we can't get 500 million people represented in one piece of content. - right. - we hold each other to this impossible standard. - and, like, that's not fair to anybody. - 'cause white people get to fail big time all over the place, and fail upwards. we don't get that. - right.