increases your chance of getting infected by five times, getting sick by ten, hospitalize or dying by ten. so before travel, get vaccinated. if you are going to travel, travel to places that have high vaccination rates, low transmission rates and of course, taking all the mitigation layers while you are traveling. masking, keeping a rapid test with, you will really make the holiday travel much safer. >> should i, if i have relatives in the south, should i just avoid seeing them this holiday season, based on the infection rate? >> here is where i would say. it is the risk you are willing to take. if everybody who is in your group in the south is vaccinated, and if you are able to take all those layers, get tested, it adds an extra layer of safety, right? the other thing that i will say is, for groups who are not yet vaccinated, with -- particularly if you have family in the south were not