i think the united states certainly share some of the blame as well. >> all right. richard engel joining us from kabul. richard, if you don't mind hanging only as we continue to cover the situation there on the ground. do want to get the congressional as well as the white house perspective on all of this as we continue to watch that live picture of kabul. at some point while richard was talking, i did see a small bit of black smoke, black plume. it is unclear what any of that could possibly mean or if it means anything. shannon, let me start with you. i do know from an interview former president george w. bush who started this war 20 years ago said the consequence are going to be unbelievably bad if we pull out of afghanistan. we kind of get a sense right now many of those comments are coming to fruition at this point. >> reporter: yes. president biden has talked about how he is the fourth president to inherit this war in afghanistan, or to oversee, i should say, this war in afghanistan. that he does not want to pass it