then, but i always remember my dad complaining about inflation, i remember cd rates at 14, 15% and the banks were giving you toasters, begging you to get your money. so i worry in that we don't have an institutional memory of what that looks like. >> a lot of us were pretty young back then. robin, thank you very much. ashley and stephanie, thank you as well. along with rising prices we're still seeing empty store shelves and out of stock notices online. backlogs are continuing to interrupt the deliver of goods. transport secretary pete buttigieg toured two ports in california. joining me now from california nbc business and tech correspondent jo ling kent. jo, good to see you. the supply chain, people are seeing a lot of empty shelves in some parts of the country for some goods. what did the transportation secretary tell you about how that's going to ease up? >> reporter: certainly, katy, these inflation numbers don't help. the pressure is really on