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fish sometimes put it. listen, a lot of people think -- i've talked to a lot of democratic senators in the last 12 to 18 hours, let's say, and a lot of people say holding that vote will allow them to move on, to close the door on this chapter and end the hope that this bbb, as currently constructed, will pass the senate, because it will not, then they can move on to get a deal. and i think, to be honest with you, this serves everyone's political interests, katy. it allows manchin to be against this bill. it allows senate democrats to be on the record for the bill. it allows both sides to kind of show where they are. there's this fantastical idea, which is basically a dream, that under pressure manchin will come to the floor and vote for this thing. he's not. he would actually win -- he would get political points in a state where donald trump won by 40 points for voting against this or at least that's what he believes and his staff believes. those are the political dynamics. but i just want to add this one fine point at the end, which is, we thought 2021 was a huge

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