for all. 43% oppose it. amy klobuchar was just saying you can be progressive and be practical at the same time. what is your take here? who is handling this issue best? and if the majority of people want this at 54%, why are they struggling to come up with a clear position on it for in some. >> well, i think the polls show us something that isn't so much about health care but that is about human beings and voters and candidates. voters like authentic people, people who take a position because they believe it and stick with it. so if you look at bernie sanders, he's never wavered on medicare for all. and joe biden is one of the architects with president obama of the affordable care act. and he stood firm on that. senator warren never would admit in the beginning how she was going to pay for health care. and now is a little bit tracking back. i think that makes people uncomfortable. americans know health care is complicated, and they want somebody at the helm who has a kind of very committed vision