really aren't there. >> finally, sir, let me get your thoughts. the democrats on the house side, do you tell them that they should, in fact, pursue court battles to get people like mike pompeo, mick mulvaney, john bolton to come forward in front of their panel? >> i'm not going to say whether they should vote on articles of impeachment. i will be act iing as a juror i the senate if those articles do, in fact, come over. certainly the testimony that i've seen and that the american people have seen is very, very damaging, and the fact that the administration is unwilling to provide documents tells you that perhaps they realize those documents are not helpful to their case in any way and they're going to try to prevent those documents and that testimony from coming forward and that should tell a story to the american people that,