story, which i didn't think was a problem to this, which in itself i don't think it a problem, but threw in a few bad debates, throw in this isn't the -- there's a cumulative effect this is taking. the fact that his numbers don't grow, yet we see a surge room for a surge like elizabeth warening, that should concern the campaign. i get it. if i'm them, that's their only strategy they have to offer, but it doesn't mean other people aren't going to try to win their primary. you're not comparing it to donald trump. you're comparing it to maybe five or six others. >> the reason it matters is it puts him on defense. there was a fascinating moment, maybe with you, but there was a member of joe biden's campaign staff addressing the central weakness of his competitors and the progressive left. your support is composed of