they have emergency contact lists, and if you have a regular job on the weekends, you might be doing medical training. you might be trained how to drag people off the street after a firefight. or you might be buying a handgun for the first time in your life. there's a popular pizzeria that's actually giving you free pizza if you can show that you have taken handgun training. so, life has been like this for the last eight years. it's just that it's ramped up, especially with the international attention on it. >> and look, we're coming up on the eighth anniversary of the russian entry into ukraine in 2014. but yet, if you look at the history of ukraine, it's always been almost like the focus of desire of other countries, you know? not just russia/soviet union, but the austrian hungarian empire and everyone in between. why is that that it's so -- it's always been threatened?