recommend masking in areas of high and substantial transmission. that is essentially everywhere in the country in public indoor settings. we continue to recommend universal masking in our schools. and so our guidance has not changed. >> so, states saying one thing, cdc director saying another. doctor, what should we be making of all of this? again, there is no real, clear one message being stated. >> good morning, jose. thank you for having me. i would say that there is the difference between the urgencisy of now, and as some in the medical profession like to call it, the urgency of normal. i am operating as the director of the cdc, dr. walensky, in the urgency of now. there is a reason, jose, that leading pediatric experts -- i'm an adult pulmonologist -- let me say it outfront, i'm not an pediatric expert, i'm an adult pulmonologist, and i defer to what the pediatric experts say. the american academy of pediatrics say -- they couldn't