point on thursday and friday. he's going to have numerous opportunities to respond, not on point, what is different from him now than 2016, is as crazy as it sounds in 2015 in 2016 he actually had a message. if you were to read the transcripts of previous speeches and debates, you couldn't actually tell sometimes who is speaking, why there was jeb bush or donald trump, for marco rubio. some of it was similar on immigration is bad. he'd have these digressions that were part of the package. and then attacks. come 2020, as you know, he short-circuiting. talking to joe biden on stage, he has nothing to say except what he's upset about. and that's gonna be the case now whether it's onstage or not. i would make that's something to hit. >> if you're chris christie we kind of know what your strategy to be, bring up trump as much as possible, isa hutchinson