history. what's the desantis campaign though all these details are out there, it was from the super pac, it sounds like things he may have thought about liked attack vivek ramaswamy, defending trump, does he need to change a strategy known? >> i love reliving some of the worst three hours of my life on sunday evening. thank you, jan, for doing that to me. >> i've been there. i have my own traumas. it's okay, kim. you know what it's like. that's why when i ask you about. it >> i do know what it's like. luckily, as you mentioned it was before the debate. number two, it wasn't a memo that was a stab at jab, it's the response -- if jab was attacked. i think what's uniquely challenging about this desantis memo leak. it offers suggestive lines, it suggests what desantis might say on the debate stage. immediately all those lines are now neutered. he can't go and call him vivek