that he was now representing donald trump, the first thing i thought was that there may be a plea negotiations in the works. i don't know that to be the case, but that may not be usual for this attorney. and when you look at the amount of times that these defendants are facing, this is a rico trial. a minimum of five years in prison, that's a significant amount of time. and when you have this many defendants, and clearly they are not all on the same page, because we are seeing motions being filed -- it would not be unusual for some of these defendants to strike plea deals, including donald trump. >> -- mayor keisha -- it's always a pleasure, thank you so much for spending time with me this afternoon. and coming, up neil -- on crucial hearings tomorrow, in the georgia case, at jack smith's election difference case. plus, my conversation with new hampshire governor chris sununu. i ask about the trump mugshot,