obeying orders are probably not going to be charged with anything? they seem to all be players but he's the mastermind. >> well, i would look at it sort of the other way around, actually. i mean the president right now as it stands can't be prosecuted for a crime. he can only be impeached. a and as we know you don't have to commit a crime to be impeached. although what i think is going on here is that we do have a bribery conspiracy. we have a conspiracy to interfere in our election, which as we know from you know the mueller report is a crime in and of itself. i mean, just those two alone i think -- you know, i think sondland, he tried to walk this line of not implicating himself. that's part of this whole burisma biden fiction, right? as long as they say the investigation was just about burisma, it's maybe not a crime. but once you say it's about biden, a political opponent, he knows he would have been