am still a force in this party, that i can still move people to the polls for you, so stay in line behind me and i will be there to help you. they knew matt bevin was a bad candidate, they knew john bel edwards was popular. so they knew it was a risk but the reward -- >> you could be a pro-life democrat. >> that's right. >> that's true. but not reflective of who the democrats will be running in 2020. >> they'll be pro choice, yeah. >> but i will say they have time and a lot of money. every rally they do is also a fund-raising opportunity. so if they can get 10,000 people in a stadium for a john -- to campaign against john bel edwards, for example, and he loses, they still got 10,000 people in an audience who they now have cell phone numbers for, who they can text and hit up for money. >> so win or loss for him altogether. >> for trump? >> yeah. >> better if he would have won.