assertion that it was the whatever, but not the name of it. so that suggests perhaps there whistle-blower's complaint that somehow the basis for this whole republican party led in part by were some gaps, some liberties representative cheney have seen unreliable information. taken in the note taking. their bonds with the president >> the whistle-blower said what do you have to report on that in the transcript? fray, especially in policy. terrible things about the call, >> it's important to remember politically they know the president remains in tight but he then -- i then found out it's not an actual transcript. control of the gop. but they're speaking out with it's a memorandum of conversation. and i think one of the things he was secondhand in other words we're hearing as the rumors increasing regularity about his decisions and about the conduct start to get out about what he didn't know what was on the of his allies if not the conduct happened during today's of the president. call. >> the first whistle-blower it testimony is that there may be >> michael, it seems to me this daylight between his was hearsay. character assassination which is contemporaneous notes, secondhand knowledge. what trump used in his campaign. >> we have a third party who lieutenant vindman's and the wasn't in the room. he would destroy his opponents, >> this phony whistle-blower is not just beat them, make them giving hearsay evidence. call memo ultimately released by look like idiots. >> it's all hearsay. the white house and it's up to but here you're going after noncom battants, witnesses. you can't get a parking ticket the white house to go back and figure out exactly what made it conviction based on hearsay. you're going after military into that call memorandum and people and destroying them by >> a report from a second person what may not have. attacking them as what? >> who in the works over there who thinks they hear something, and that's the most you've got? or nsc sit room would have the anti-trumpers, they sit around >> that's the main line of the in the bushes planning on how to defense of the president saying power to cleanup the president's get this guy. it was secondhand. crap? >> this guy is the conservative who would have the power to say in his deposition today colonel we better not say burisma ideal. he escaped from behind the iron vindman also described an because that would look curtain, came to this country, earlier nsc meeting with a got an education, served in the ukrainian official at the white politic military, wounded defending our