can connect with voters. and if it's a ground game in iowa, it's about getting out there and shaking hands and kissing babies, which iowa still is, that does favor biden on the ground. >> adrienne, you've been through these national campaigns. you know how they turn. we'll get to that in a moment. but they do turn, even in early january, they flip. >> yep. yeah, it's early but it's not early. what we're seeing, chris, of course is the front-runner of that field is really starting to gel. poll after poll, real clear politics average says joe biden, elizabeth warren and bernie sanders are really the top three to beat. but i would sort of say this is joe biden's summer that he won. elizabeth warren of course has made incremental movement in the polls and that's been good for her. but joe biden has had a number of situations that might normally sink a candidate, but he has risen above. his poll numbers are still outstanding. >> do you like his press strategy? >> yeah, i do. >> it's basically peek do, do an interview once in a while and then go back? >> well, it's working for him