the insight was that the old wi dispute, and chaos and bloodshed over religious struggles, and the great project of america, however poorly realized in the beginning, the great project of america was that if you assented to the idea of the country that we're all created equal, therefore you could be in america. it didn't matter where you came from, it didn't matter if you worshipped at all. >> you know, michael, trump did this to me one time. he takes your religious background and he shoves it at you. he says how can you be pro choice, a lot of catholics are pro choice. we have our own beliefs about life, we accept the teaching authority of our church, but when it comes to the constitution we accept it. life is complicated. trump says everybody does everything according to their identity, you're not allowed to have a opinion. >> that's largely how he sees the world. this is another play in it. all i can say from this comment