Republicans who count the months between wars as an unwanted timeout. Who like nothing more than the next war to fight. Meet barack obama two. Hes going to run the way he believes to do it. I like it. I think theres one guy out there by the way ironically rooting for obama. Its the guy who got used by the hawks, saw his place ruined by their lies. His name is george w. Bush. And hes sitting down there in texas watching the same old predictable crowd of war hawks trying good their number one more time. Only this time theres someone in the white house wise to their game. Joining me now is msnbc plienl analyst david corn from mother jones. And john fehry. You can throw in your ideas. My idea is this. He picked chuck hagel after watching two or three weeks of him trying to be destroyed by the right wing. He let them hang fire. Give me your worst about this guy. Do it all and im going to stick it in your face because i want a guy that thinks like me. He may be a notch or two to my left. Take it. Is that a sign of willing to fight this time . I think obama is the type of guy who picks his fights. Sometimes he comes out and goes for the bipartisan compromise. Doesnt work. Hell flip and do a fight. Health care. Great example. He tried to cut a deal with republicans, tried too hard according to some people on the left. Left out the public option. Then when he had no deal, what did he do . He rammed it through using methods that republicans screamed about. He also has this other thing. Hes really good at driving them crazy so that they go to the excessive. I want to know what you think about this. I think republicans attacking hagel, war hero kind of a republican, moderate guy. Theyre going to look terrible in the end. And i think obama basically is good at setting traps. They better have some on the other side doing the attacks that somewhat of a war record. Your thoughts about hagel. Then well move on to the crap coming. Personally i like chuck hagel. My opinion is definitely a minority in the senate. Its not just republicans. And i think that well, i think he doesnt know the senate well. Hes not using his Political Capital wisely. I think the problem hes got here is hes going to have a set of democrats who do not like chuck hagel, see him as a problem. Who are they . Theyve already come out. I dont have the specifics. Give me names. Schumer. Schumers a question mark. I think hell vote for him. Well see. The thing is hes doing what you want him to pick john boldin . I think he should pick michelle. Why . First time in your life you heard of her. Four years ago. Shes actually pretty smart. I know. And theyre all pushing somebody they never heard before. You guys are such frauds. Anyway, from the fiscal cliff to the chuck hagel nomination, observers are noting that the president is playing more of a game of offense now. Heres how politicos glen thrust put it today, quote, after fourplus years of em bitered partisan combat, he views his gop bargaining partners with more than a little contempt. To pass a moderate tax increase before the fiscal cliff deal isnt the best way to deal with the capital is to throw rocks at it. Then send joe biden in to clean up the glass. Your thoughts . In nominating hagel this week, the president praised his record of independence in the senate and urged his former colleagues to confirm him quickly. Take a look. Chuck represents the bipartisan tradition we need more of in washington. For his independence and commitment to consensus, hes earned the respect of National Security and military leaders. I just want to repeat i hope that the senate will act on these confirmations promptly. When it comes to National Security, we dont like to leave a lot of gaps. Between the time that one set of leaders transitions out and another transitions in. So we need to get moving quickly. Fehry you denied this is a statement naming chuck hagel. Hes going to the left on foreign policy. Hes going away from the neoconservative universe. Hes not going to be mr. Tough guy bully in the schoolyard. It is a statement and means something. Theres no question that hes making a direct change in policy. And i think the problem for that is its very controversial with republicans. Who does john mccain like today besides lindsey . Anybody else . I dont think so. He doesnt like chuck hagel. Let me disagree with something. This is not a change in policy. The president came in saying he would end the iraq war and the afghan war. He would get rid of the iraq war and take the Afghanistan War and slow it down, basically downsize it. Thats what hes been doing for the last four years despite the neocons screaming about it all the way. Chuck haig segel is a continuatn that. When he had to, he stared down petraeus. [ overlapping speakers ] you guys have john boldin after saying this is clinton with somehow faking her concussion. I didnt say that. The president can have who he wants. I like chuck hagel. If he gets it, im fine with it. Suppose your guy won the race the guy you thought would win. And he put boldin in, the strange mustache guy. Would they have put him in there . I dont think romney would have put bolton in. Lets talk about the fiscal cliff. Thats behind us. That turkeys behind us. We got others. We have lived through bill clinton. Whatever you say about bill clinton, he knew how to deal with these people saying shut down the government. Go ahead. Ill have my pizza. You go ahead. Hell have other things. Whatever else you say. What happened . Newt looked like a fool. He looked like a fool. So can this president show that kind of guts . First you because youre for him. Well, i think were going to see the debt ceiling fight first. Thats what i mean. He feels so passionately will he tell them to go guest lost . In the book i had out last year whats the name of the book . Showdown. The first time he got in his aides said you may have to cut a deal. He said no way. Its not just my presidency, its future presidencies. We cant let congress hold the white house hostage by not paying their own bills. His bills. No, listen. Why didnt he do it . Well, actually, he did. Instead of accepting a sixmonth extension, he got a year and a half. Now hes not going to go back and start negotiating. He may have to at the end of the day. Predictions time. Will the president of the United States when we run out of money under the debt ceiling and hes forced to let people lay off, closing down the National Monuments and parks, will he let boehner and his crowd on that . On the default hes going to be more critical. Which comes first . I think the debt ceiling may come first. Will he let the government shut down like clinton did . I dont think so. Because john boehner doesnt want it shut down. The tea party guys want it to. This come to do you have the votes. And you have to govern. This is what its all about. The president is responsible for governing. Shutting down the government is not governing. I think it hurts the president harder than it hurts anybody. Gingrich was in 94 through 96, Newt Gingrich promised to shut down the government. Boehner has vowed to keep it open. If the president makes threats, its going to hurt the president. He may not be able to keep a single promise he makes because he cant deliver the votes. The president s job is to lead. If hes not going to lead i think hes got a take a stand. Part of the politico cast on the white house is its a highlight splits of the Republican Party over many issues. In other words, get them to divide. Quote, the ambition to split the Republican Party asunder is part and parcel of the white houses second term game plan. Exposing an unpleasant truth for republicans. Theres not much unity within the party. We saw in the last campaign, what unites republicans. Obama. They dont like him. I think there is a split. You know it better than we do. Whether youll admit it or not. There is a system between practical governing republicans and renegades who want to shut it down in many ways who go off some of theess people. Alex jones we saw him the other day. And if barack obama decides to be macho man, its going to unite the republicans and weaken his hand. No doubt. That didnt work on the tax cut bill. They were you know what . Its not going to work on immigration. Theyre going to be divided on that. And theyre going to be divided on the debt ceiling. Youve got guys like mcconnell and boehner say you may be right. The restoration of the old northwest Republican Party under the leadership of Chris Christie. Somebodys got to bring it back which youre part of. You dont act like it sometimes. Youre going to be one of them. Wouldnt you like to be press secretary to Chris Christie of the United States . What a job. Whats wrong with this picture . Heres what a gathering of president obamas top cabinet officials and aides might look like. A lot of people are looking at this saying where are the women and minorities . The group that put the president back in the white house. Also could the answer to the gops problems be found somewhere in the swamps of jersey . Sounds like the colonial wars. Thats a Bruce Springsteen reference. Now one of the biggest fans is Chris Christie. He may be what they need to break out of their super religious people. Heres my question. How does a pragmatist like christie get through a tea party driven primary season. Christie wants to save the party from itself. Republicans have reintroduced a bill to defund planned parenthood. Republicans. If you want to remain a minority party, keep it up. Let me finish tonight with a fabulous story about dick nixon and his 100th birthday. 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It shows the president in the oval office. All of them in there are male except for Valerie Jarretts leg there blocked from sight. Shes of course very influential, but look at the ratio there. This piece points out 43 of obamas appointees have been women. But following a slew of nominations of white men for high possessions, weve seen them all. Today it looks like a lot of white guys getting good jobs. And hilda solis is resigning. Going to talk to joan walsh. Which is fun in this discussion. And Eugene Robinson who writes beautiful columns and you did it again on rg3. Is there something wrong with this picture, joan walsh . As we look at it. Yes. Obviously there is, chris. It would be a somewhat different picture if valerie had been actually visible in it. So thats a shame. But its not enough. She is one of the most influential if not the most influential person in the president s circle. Weve got to give him credit for that. I think its unfortunate the times piece did not talk about the fact he did nominate two women to the supreme court. And the Court Nominees have been good in terms of diversity. Those two things mitigate a bit. However, youre right. That picture the general picture you showed before the segment of the top level appointees, john brennan we didnt mention, all being men. It is a change. It is a little disturbing. And the departure of somebody as luminous as hillary clinton, too, makes it feel more stark and more like, you know, really something that should be corrected. And i dont i think he will in future appointments. But he doesnt have a chance to correct those top, top appointments. Your thoughts . You lived through all this. You know what affirmative action looks like. Thats not affirmative action. No. I preach diversity and will preach it to the president. Its a process and you keep working at it. What should we worked it with the producers today. Trying to frame this question. Things happen like this organically. People know people. We know how it works. What is it he didnt do that he should have done affirmatively . Did he borrow, you know, one of romneys binders full of women or Something Like that . Apparently he didnt. Diversity, it has to happen on all levels. So you look for somebody to fill these top jobs. What ideally you have done is brought people along, fostered diversity coming up through the ranks. So that when you sit down with the likely suspects and youre going to choose from among the likely suspects, among them are women and minorities. So who are the big kahunas in the campaign . I was thinking of people we deal with. Im trying to think of people who showed their greatness in the field and earned battlefield promotions that didnt get them. Thats one way of looking at this. Also its moving up to the senate. Maybe by the time were real old, the senate may be close to even. Maybe. Maybe not that old. The Vice President is still out there. But lets look at the top five cabinet positions. State is the number one job in the world, i think. Number two is treasury. Number three is defense. And then fourth i guess a. G. All men now. Right. Lets add the name of susan rice to this discussion. Because i think we might not even be having this discussion had he picked susan rice and had she had a better shot at being confirmed. A lot of progressives are still upset he didnt fight for her like hes going to have to fight for hagel. I want to leave that question aside. I dont think it has to do with gender. If he got his way, he didnt tell me he wanted to pick her, but had he been able to appoint susan rice, this might be a different picture. We might not even be talking about it. Who did he pass over that could have met the quality test year . You dont have to be exactly the same as john kerry, but in that league. This is what i think youre pointing out about bringing up the foreign team. Who is it actually . All the press, all the guys on the right now are saying flournoy. I dont know her. I dont know her either but im told shes terrific. Her resume is dynamite. And would have been a great choice. But again, you bring people up and they develop a public profile as well. But to joans point, i am hearing from people that gee, hed fight for chuck hagel but he wouldnt for susan rice. Now, thats just a function of you know why hes fighting for hagel . Its a left right fight and hes comfortable with it. I dont know the details of the susan rice thing but he didnt want to go back into it apparently. I think there were good reasons for that. But the optics of it are senator amy closure who has been mentioned as a possible president ial candidate next time around from minnesota. The senior senator there. Heres what she had in defense of the president had to say. Lets listen. First of all, lets look at what the president has done here. He had hillary clinton. You cant get a stronger woman in as secretary of state, a stronger person in. You had sebelius, napolitano. Two supreme Court Nominees. Both have been women. He does have a strong track record here. Not all the nominees have been announced yet. Obviously id like to see some women in there. Let me talk to you about how this changes and a president could change. Gene said bring up to farm team. But bring up the people to the deputy ranks to have them ready for principle positions. Most second terms are filled with people who were deputies in the first term. That hasnt always happened. But its an ideal circumstance. How do you get more women and more minorities in the sort of the clubhouse mentality of politics of people running campaigns, people like tom donland, axelrod. You think donna brazil is a woman who has broken into the boys game at the top. Is that a problem of the culture of the boys club or the clubhouse. Who was it that called bill clintons white boys club. It was a problem back then. Its always been a problem. You cant except our first black president to solve that problem single handedly in one or two terms. I think there have been other complaints that theres a lot of socializing and bonding that goes on in the Basketball Court and on the golf course. And that women went to Valerie Jarrett in the first term and said they felt a little bit left out and sidelined. You cant forget about that. He lost somebody at the caliber of a Christina Romer who was doing progressive things. His inability to hold on to certain women might be a problem too. So i think it is a culture where you really do have to work at it and not do unconscious things that may sideline women. You think the golf thing is the golf game stuff. Bill clinton played hearts with everybody. You know . Youre laughing. Anyway, he was not gender specific when it came to card games. But i agree. Card games are good. I know golfing has a certain jend for aspect to it. I once challenged Condoleezza Rice on her record of diversity at the state department. And basically asked if she had done enough. And she rather angrily replied dont judge me as i find this institution. Judge me as i leave it and if i put people in a position to rise and succeed. So i think thats the way we should judge the president s record on diversity. He and his cabinet appointees in their departments practiced diversity to the point where, you know, in the fullness of time lets hope not too much time you know what our job is here . To keep making noise about this. You got to keep making noise. He can take it. The country cannot take an exclusionary class. I love when you smile. Thank you, dear. Up next, think the loud mouth we showed you from piers morgan last night was out of the right wing mainstream . Think again. Heres the front page of the most conservative leaning website in the country. Thats on guns. Hitler equals stalin equals obama. 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So alex jones is not as far from the right wing mainstream on guns you assumed or hoped. Next, add this one to the list of why republicans missed the whole election. It turns out were in for this fight again. The amendment i bring to the floor tonight would deny any and all funding to planned parenthood and its affiliates for the rest of the fiscal year. That was mike pence leading the charge in 2011 to defund planned parenthood. It did not stop with his exit from congress. Enter marsha blackburn. Shes on the show a lot. And her kickoff this time to the 113th congress. We felt like that, to start the year off on the very first day that we would go ahead and get the bill filed. What it does is to defund planned parenthood. It would block their ability to get taxpayer money, and we know that planned parenthood is basically big abortion business. There you have it. Shes not alone. Marsha blackburns colleague also reintroduced the same bill. Planned parenthood president weighed in. Quote, they apparently learned nothing from the result of the last election where americans said they do not want politicians dictating womens access to health care. Finally seeing this signature on the paper dollar. Douglas dillon. Now that jack lew is to succeed, the problem is this. The squirrely signature. Its going to show on the paper money if hes confirmed. Offered up some comparisons to his signature. The crazy straw you get at six flags. A slip of paper you used to test out pens in office max. And a classic. The hair of peanuts character sally brown. There it is too. Up next, can anyone save the Republican Party from itself . The answer may be on the cover of the new time magazine. There it is. Youre watching hardball, the place for politics. With the spark cash card from capital one, sven gets great rewards for his Small Business how does this thing work . 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Aig announced it will not join a lawsuit against the government over the terms of the financial crisis bailout. The insurance giant says it thanks america for its support. And facebook shares hit 30 for the first time in months. And thats it for cnbc. We are first in business worldwide. Now back to chris and hardball. Welcome back to hardball. Up, up, up. Chris christies stock is rising in jersey after befriending the president and taking on his own party in Hurricane Sandy relief money. Take a look at these numbers. You dont see these in politics much. A 73 Approval Rating among new jersey voters. 73 . Even higher approval among independents. And 62 among democrats. When you look at Traditional Democratic voting blocks, christies at 70 approval among women. 69 among nonwhite voters. 62 in homes with a public employee. And he may be the man to get the gop back on track. If his party will allow him to go all the wa i to the nomination for president. My colleague Joe Scarborough has a hell of a show. He made it himself. He built this place like mo green. Its all yours on the morning joe. I appreciate you coming back and working a double shift tonight. Your sense of your party that you grew up with and won office down in florida, how does he fit in 2013 politics looking forward to 2016 . I think he fits really well. Like henry loose, the founder of time magazine, was a believer of the great history. Im in faimp of the man of politics. In a way that baldwin couldnt. Only Margaret Thatcher could have done what Margaret Thatcher did. And turning to reagan. Instead of connolly who was able to do what he did. And bill clinton in 1992. Took a Democrat Party who lost five out of the last six elections and turned that party around. Right now the Republican Party is absent strong leadership. Thats why weve seen the party go in the direction its going. You know, i think its fascinating that the past year and a half, past two years has even made me long for the days of george w. Bush. Because you remember what bush did. I mean, when trent lott, a good friend of mine said something he shouldnt have said about strom thurmon, they moved quickly get k him out as majority leader. They did not allow other extremist statements without punishing them. So i think Chris Christie if he keeps providing strong leadership in new jersey actually shows republicans you can stand up to the extremists. You can work with democrats in government. And you can be rewarded for it in a big way. Lets take a look. Heres Chris Christie talking to you this morning. He knows how to get things done and that means compromising with democrats. Lets watch him explaining himself to you this morning. Im in a divided government. I have a Democratic Senate and democratic assembly. What that means is im not going to get everything i want. I wake up every morning knowing even though i think im right im not getting everything i want. I think of what is important to me and what i can convince them of. Lets talk history. It seems to me if you look back in 1940 in that tricky time. You talk about the months going into world war ii. We hadnt been hit in pearl harbor yet, but we knew the nazis were bad guys. Along comes the Republican Party. In five dies in philadelphia a guy named wendell welky beat robert taft, thats his name dewey. Whole bunch of them. Says were going to have to go to war. Im not going to play no man on this. He wins the nomination. He gives roosevelt the best fight of his career. If he had been running against anybody else, he would have been president for a couple terms. I agree with you completely. And you get so many republicans right now talking about the example of ronald reagan. Ronald reagan was constantly skewered by people on his right from the very beginning. Even when he was governor of california, william f. Buckley had to write a stirring defense of ronald reagan. Reagan refused to shut down the government. He decided he had to raise taxes in california because he worked with democrats as well. Thats one of the great frustrations ive had as conservative as i am. Ive had young republicans on my show that have come on and said they will not vote for a revenue increase, a tax increase no matter what. They wont compromise on guns no matter what. They wont compromise with democrats no matter what. And i have to politely remind them that we actually inherited for better or worse i think for better the government of james madison. The constitution of james madison. Weve got checks and balances. Ronald reagan understood that. If thats who we republicans want to claim as our hero, lets take a closer look at the record of reagan. On taxes, on budgets, i would say on assault weapons especially right now for a Republican Party that seems to be veering, i think, dangerously close to territory postnewtown, that could cost them a lot of swing seats. We have got to learn what buckley always told us to do. Look at the realities in front of us. And deal with those realities in our politics. Were sort of dop l gangers you and i. I have a jealous interest in this. I want to see two parties i can choose from. I dont think ive got them right now. But i grew up in a state of pennsylvania where we had people like bill scranton and tom ridge i could have voted for. Pragmati. They may not have been in bed with labor some people like them to be, but they were good leaders. I think the country is better off having people like that before christie. We grew up with the northeast packed with people like ed brooke and people like that across. Youre losing them all though. Olympia snow is leaving. Heres the thing though. Chris christie is no susan collins. Christie isnt even Christine Todd whitman. Chris christie is a guy i could have served with in the hard core wing of the 1994 republican congress. He would have voted with me 100 of the time on these contract with america issues. He wouldnt have gone soft on some of the things that lets say a more moderate republican would go soft on. Which is fine. But christie is a hard core jeb bush, Joe Scarborough conservative. And the fact that some people in washington, d. C. Are angry at this guy because he did what any governor would have done. What jeb bush did when bill clinton came to the state of florida when we were having trouble, jeb bush worked with the man who beat his father in an ugly 1992 campaign. Because jeb bush you put the interest of florida first. Thats what christie is doing. Im telling you. Republicans have been taught a lesson in 2012. I hope it doesnt take 2013 and 2014 to drive that home. Were looking right now as the democrats of 1984. I dont like the term San Francisco democrats. That was the knock on the city for the orientation of some of the inhabitants. I love San Francisco, but that convention, you guys were owned by special interests. I never had more fun at a convention in my life. Thank you, Joe Scarborough. I think youre a smart guy. And congratulations and thanks for the christmas present. That is great. And its discreet the morning joe part. I can flaunt that thing. Up next, quiz. What president established the epa, was more liberal than obama on health care, supported the equal rights amendment, and started affirmative action all together. Would you believe, Richard Nixon . And this is hardball, the place for politics. [ male announcer ] how do you measure happiness . By the armful . By the barrelful . The carful . How about. By the bowlful . Campbells soups give you nutrition, energy, and can help you keep a healthy weight. Campbells. Its amazing what soup can do. Conservatives have been fretting that theyre losing the culture war. Today theres another sign that theyre right. The National Cathedral in washington has decided to start hosting samesex marriages. And as Jonathan Capehart wrote in the washington post, to say i do is to say ive arrived. The decision is just one more sign how much americans attitudes towards gays and lesbians have changed in the past 20 years. You can bet on that. Well be right back. [ female announcer ] need help keeping your digestive balance . Try the 1 gastroenterologist recommended probiotic. Align. Align naturally helps maintain digestive balance. Ooh, baby, can i do for you today . Try align today. How did i know . Well, i didnt really. See, i figured low testosterone would decrease my sex drive. But when i started losing energy and became moody. Thats when i had an honest conversation with my doctor. We discussed all the symptoms. Then he gave me some blood tests. 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President clinton eulogized him at his funeral in 1994. Lets listen. For the past year, even in the final weeks of his life, he gave me his wise counsel. One thing in particular left a profound impression on me. Though this man was in his ninth decade, he had an incredibly sharp and vigorous and rigorous mind. He made mistakes and they like his accomplishments are part of his life and record. But the enduring lesson of Richard Nixon is that he never gave up being part of the action and passion of his times. For more on Richard Nixons very complicated and in many ways dark legacy, weve got two men who studied him extensively. Dr. The author of the president s club, inside the worlds most exclusive fraternity. Lets just start with i love these relationships in politics. I love to write about them and think about them. What was the relationship between dick nixon, republican, scandalized by his own hand and bill clinton was coming on as a young, fresh face out of the ivy league schools. Nixon really wanted to get to know clinton when he came in. He said call me, i can help you. But then he did start calling. And hes had this sort of relationship talking about russia and chooip thina, but al talking, chris, about how to do this job. What do you eat . How much time do you spend in meetings . Where did you sit . Where would you like to work . And clinton found nixons advice useful and he was thrilled to be back in the loop after all of these years in exile. Yeah, douglas, my buddy, it seems like he did for nixon what harry truman did for hoover. Brought him back into public life after his banishment. There were reasons for that. Bill clinton had been beaten up by the press quite a bit himself. Kicked around about jennifer flowers and on and on. So he sympathized a little bit. And, also, it was just the right thing to do to extend a hand to Richard Nixon. And he did. Monocan crowley is a fox news analyst who used to work for nixon is his last years. She works extensively about that friendship that developed in his last few years. He braught in dean atkinson to help him right a majority speech. Deans school of cowardly containment. So what nixon did to atchison, he did again. I have a bunch of interesting questions. Reagan and nixon, both california conservatives should have gotten along. They didnt, did they . They had different ideas about what it meant to be a republican. Nixon, kind of an old fashioned, northeast republican. Reagan this new generation. A little more libertarian. He does revenuesharing and kanszer research and reagan comes in and says government isnt for doing all of these things. You know, i want to get to both ways on this, the moral issue here. Nixons tapes are absolute lly gree jous. Theyre terrible. Theyre just all through the tapes. Theyre strange, even, the comments he makes about ethnic groups. Theyre almost ludicrously funny. Because theyre ridiculous. And my question is, is he just a man who talked to different people depending on who they were . Did he just go like reid shaken by the wind . Is he like a jewish friend with lane garment or arthur burns or kissenger . Did he speak one way and then talk differently to him . And thats pretty pathetic. Thats my reading of the guy. Youre spot on with it, chris. Exactly. And theres a guy named luke nichter, texas a m whos meticulously transcribed all of these tapes. You can see that the devil was brought out of nixon by h. R. Holdaman. Whenever theyre there, the dark side of nixon comes out. When you see other parts of the tape to listen to nixon an nato affairs on dealing with the apollo program, he comes off as quite wise and shrewd. So youre spot on. He would never talk like that with bill clinton. Or reagan, even. Bill sapphire once described nixon as a layer cake. Eight, nine layers thick. Theres the conservative person. A loaner. A realist, overseas. A hater at some level. And, also, a really good poker player. So he was a much more complicated piece of work. He had been your average president and most of them are complicated. A good part of them were just spooky. Well, at some point, he had just been a striver and a scraper. The world of french, the chinese love this guy. The french love him. Maybe thats like jerry lewis. Maybe it doesnt say a lot, but it is strange. You know that, douglas . We look at him in a particular way. Hes ours. Anyway, thank you, happy birth day, dick, where ever you are and Richard Nixon. I am not a nixon hater. Its much more complicated. Thank you, gentleman. The name of your book . President s club. Your book, crime cutting. Hell of a book. When we return, let me finish with a tale of two president s. Youre watching hardball. The place for politics. I was spotting, but i had already gone through menopause. These symptoms may be nothing. 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