Now a close romney ally in indiana put out word he would criminalize abortion even if the woman was raped. Its headed for the white house, people were scoffed when Rick Santorum pushed the contraception and now republicans are pushing a measure to let bosses deny coverage for Birth Control simply by saying they dont believe in it. Bosses get to decide, all this from a party that wants to dismember medicare, erase health care and kill the effort for better education. Romney is right its not about big bird. Its the nose brained campaigns theyre running on. Joining me is gwen moore and howard feinman. Richard mur douk answered a question submitted about i a voter about his position on abortion. Lets listen. You know this is that issue that every candidate for federal or state office faces and i, too, certainly stand for life. I know there are some who disagree and i respect their point of view but i believe life begins at conception. The only exception i have to have an abortion is in that case of the life of the mother. I just, i struggled with it myself for a long time but i came to realize life is that gift from god and i think even when life begins in that horrible situation of rape that it is something that god intended to happen. And there is he saying under the law woman should be denied the right to choose an abortion, she would be criminalized under his law. Shortly after the debate ended mourdocks comments had gone rival. Romneys spokesperson who often does the cleanup distanced her candidate. Governor romney disagrees with Richard Mourdocks comments and they do not reflect his views. It may have been a little late to back away given romneys ads supporting him, one of only two Senate Candidates hes gone out there, went out the day before. This fall im supporting Richard Mourdock for state senate. As state treasury richard worked with governor daniels to balance the budget and make government more accountable. As senator richard would be the 51st vote to repeal and replace governmentrun health care. Richard will help stop the reid pelosi agenda. Theres so much at stake. I hope youll join me in supporting Richard Mourdock for u. S. Senate. There you go. Weve got the candidate pushing himself away from mourdocks statement. Mourdock of course is the republican nominee in the state of indiana for the United States senate. Lets take a look weve got a couple guests, u. S. Congressman gwen moore from wisconsin, recounted her ideal in this horrible situation and we also have msnbc star, howard feinman. Congressman moore, i want to talk to you about your own feelings, attitudes and experiences that might put a light on this thing. Candidate for the United States senate in indiana saying if a woman is raped and has a pregnancy she should be forced by law to have that child. If you read the republican platform it basically says criminalizes abortion in any case. Go ahead. Your thoughts. Well, i could tell you as a survivor of rape, legitimate rape, whatever kind of rape you want to call it, i caution the women of america to not allow mitt romney and these senators to take over our government. They will totally eviscerate the rights of women to control their own destiny. I could tell you, rape is not rare, and you know, i differ with Michael Steele and others who say that they have just been inarticulate. They are really articulating the views of people who, of members of congress and the president who believe that there should be no exceptions to abortion. Their belief is rain is another form of conception. They believe that rape is sort of an excuse or loophole that women use in order to get an abortion and i can tell you that 95 of all rape victims are women. 25 of all women in their lifetime will experience rape. That means your niece, your daughter, your granddaughter, and if we start forcing women to have babies when they have raped, it will cause such social chaos and these men who would seek to be in charge of our white house, our supreme court, and our United States senate are a danger to the health of women. Rape causes post Traumatic Stress disorder, suicidal attempts, visceral reactions. I can tell you as a rape survivor, every time one of these bafoons opens their mouth, chris, i really recoil, physically recoil with how disgusting this is, and it brings up terrible memories. Thank you. Stay with us. Howard, lets talk ideology here. This is an ideology. Youre hearing it from mourdock, heard it from todd aiken, a woman cant get pregnant if shes raped against her will, crazy talk because they cannot accept the impurity of any policy, it has to be down the line which the definition of a fanatic, we must punish anybody that has an abortion, helps somebody has an abortion, anything to do with it but they dont recognize in life not everything is your choice. Thats why they wanted the personhood, they wanted the language about personhood and the personhood amendment in the platform, that was crucial to them. Mitt romney says now in one of his many torturers, different positions on abortion that he is impure in the sense that he will accept abortions in the case of rape, incest and life of the mother. Hes running on the plat forfor form. Number two the democrats rightly jumped all of this, i talked to people in the Romney Campaign and the Obama Campaign. The Romney Campaign says hey our candidate distanced himself from Richard Mourdock. The democrats are saying first of all the ads are still up. Hes still endorsing that guy. Secondly the key in several states, chris, are independent women voters and they say in surveys abortion is their number one issue so this is going to play right at those people in colorado, new hampshire, virginia and so forth. Theyre in bed with the far right. Hes saying he wants bipartisanship and if hes saying hes a moderate, being in bed with Richard Mourdock doesnt strengthen his argument. People on the far right are saying what they want and this guy is in bed with him. The president s spokeswoman said the president felt those comments were outrageous and demeaning to women. She said he found it perplexing the ads havent come down. Already the Democratic National committee has a web video linking romney and hour douk. Lets listen to part of that ad. This fall im supporting Richard Mourdock for senate. Even when life begins in that horrible situation of rape, that it is something that god intended to happen. This is a man who i want to see in washington to make sure that we can not just talk about changing things but actually have the vote to get things changed. Even when life begins in that horrible situation of rape, that it is something that god sbepded to happen. We got to get this guy elected in the u. S. Senate. Hes a wingnut obviously based upon what hes been saying and also beat a great man, dick lugar in indiana, sorry, is this the same guy . I cant believe they chose mourdock over lugar. Chris christie, todd whitman a republican said mourdocks comments damage all republicans and especially romney as the fight for the womans vote intensifies. This could be a defining moment for romney and he should immediately denounce both mourdock and the comments. Thats Christie Todd whitman. Massachusetts senator scott brown, emphasized he is pro choice and disagrees with mourdock. New hampshire senator kelly ayott canceled a trip to campaign with mourdock and the governor urged mourdock to apologize. Congresswoman moore, these guys are dancing away from this guy because hes embarrassed them. Seems as you point out their platform, they are running away from the platform, from what paul ryan has said about personhood. How many times can they make deals with the hard right to get the support of the base of the republican side and then dance away from it when the lights go on . I just hope women of america are seeing that this is the dirty little secret inside of the republican party. They have no respect for women, no regard for women. They want to give rights to an embryo at the expense of Womens Health and womens lives, and they just want to get elected. You know, believe us for these 13 days, but i believe mitt romney and these senators i believe them for what they have said the first time. They have said that they would repeal congresswoman, youre an africanamerican, the 14th amendment came out of the civil war, an attempt to make sure the freed slaves had the rights of citizenship and all the rights of life, liberty and property. Now to take the 14th amendment and exploit it for this ideological battle of craziness, as you said, the fertilized eggs has the rights over the woman, who is supposed to have control of her body under the law, and doesnt under this thing. And it does. For mitt romney, and these senators to say that i mean this is a womans entire life. I mean, its her physical health, her mental health, her economic status. I could tell you something, chris, as a mother of three, its hard enough to raise children when you plan a pregnancy, much less to have these men thrust pregnancy upon you. I can tell you that the jerry sandusky, thats the reason why we cant pass the violence against women act for example because these men do not take the violence against women seriously. They perhaps think that rape is just a sort of a rite of passage but rape is pandemic, its a pandemic disease in this country, and despite what todd aiken says, you can become pregnant and what is so cynical is that once you become pregnant these republicans dont want you to have food stamps, they dont want you to of wic. They begrudge you a safety net, and so i am hoping that the women of america will believe these people for what they are telling you. These are not misstatements. They are stating what they actually believe. Well we benefit a lot from your experience and knowledge. Thanks so much, u. S. Congressman moore. Howard, is this going to get tied around the neck of romney . Democrat also do everything they can in key places from independent libertarian women. Colorado. Colorado, new hampshire, northern virginia, women who are in business and might like mitt romney on the economy, theyre going to hold back and the democrats will have the chance to get them for the same reason about libertarianism, they want to control their own bodies and lives. Romney has made his bed with the crazy crowd. Thank you, howard. Coming up, rational exuberance, republicans strutting like the election is in the bag. Are they knowing something we dont know or bluffing hoping to influence reporters and undecided voters that want to go with the winner. The right wing wont quit with its fever swamp fantasies with president obama who is foreign and other. And sarah palin today threw out the dog whistle and pulled out a trumpet with obamas shuck and drive on libya, thats the way theyre talking now. And Rudy Giuliani joins to us play hardball. Let me finish with this dirty relentless attack on the president for people who dont know what it means to be a true american. This is hardball, the place for politics. Well Elizabeth Warren appears to be opening up a lead in the Massachusetts Senate race. New wbur mass inc. Poll finds a sixpoint lead. 50 the magic number, brown 44. Earlier this month brown was up by three. I think tom menino the mayor is the key. In connecticut murphy has a lead over mcmahon. Well be right back opinion there to tal. K. Dont you love me . Im a robot. I know. I know youre a robot but theres more in you than just circuits and wires uhhh. cries a machine cant give you what a person can. Thats why ally has knowledgeable people there for you, night and day. Ally bank. Your money needs an ally. Mike rowe here at a ford tell me fiona, whos having a big tire event . Your ford dealer. Who has 11 major brands to choose from . Your ford dealer. Whos offering a rebate . Your ford dealer. Who has the low price tire guarantee. Affording peace of mind to anyone who might be in the market for a new set of tires . Your ford dealer. Im beginning to sense a pattern. Buy four select tires, get a 60 rebate. Use the Ford Service Credit credit card, get 60 more. Thats up to 120. Where did you get that sweater vest . Your ford dealer. Welcome back to hardball. The Romney Campaign sounding calm, cool and confident with 13 days to go. Since the first debate romney has caught president obama in most National Polls but is romney the frontrunner as hes projecting himself to be right now and some in the media are now painting him . This morning politicos mike allen threw cold water on the growing conventional wisdom. To be president you have to win states not debates and mitt romney has a problem. Romney has not put away a single one of the must have states, president obama remains the favorite because he only needs to win a couple of the tossups, mitt needs to win most of them. Jonathan chate put it this say bluff. Romney is carefully attempting to project an atmosphere of momentum, for a selfsul filling prophecy. Well written. Jon chait sitting with david corn, the author of 47 percent as if it actually exists. It does, it. How much is it . 99 cents. Read it in one night. Jonathan you wrote that very well. When i was learning about the theory of b. S. , if you will, that theyre going to win it reminds me of that prince w. He announced we have the bush family the right to be president and im going to dictate through five weeks of recount that i am the president. Is this what the other princely born guy is up to, roll snee. Bush did that before the election, he went out to california, karl rove said he would win 320 electoral votes. My daddy said ill be president , its coming true. I went back and read something i wrote in 2000 when i was at the new republic at the time saying bush doesnt have it in the bag and i had to convince everyone he wasnt going to crush al gore, it was a surprising, shocking but this strategy of saying youve won before youve won creates an inevitability, i think its ridiculously premature. We have two weeks and anything can happen and by the way the numbers are closing and may be crossing. I dont know why were surprised the Romney Campaign which doesnt tell the truth about his policy positions, his past statements. His taxes. His taxes, even what he said five seconds ago is throwing a line of bull out whats going to happen on the elections. I think what theyre trying to do two, everyones getting worried about a most election fight that its not definitive or something comes up and so the more you talk about it beforehand is looks like romney is going to win, you try to set up again for the post election fight that may or may not. Like in florida. Like in florida so its the type of thing that reporters get suckered into and you know, we keep looking at the national, does it matter. Lets get down to the psychobabble here. Why do republicans lust for the presidency . Its almost like we are the ruling class. They dont mind who is running congress. Those jobs are middle level, below the line in the house. They must be president. Its like if theyre not president , they dont call the military at their demand. No. They dont have this power of living in the white house where the best people live, theyve really failed themselves. I think democrats want to be president pretty badly, too. I dont think its the same sense of right. Youre talking about entitlement. Youre talking about a sense of entitlement. Right, democrats earn it. Weve seen for the last four years, talked about this numerous times on the show that they dont accept obama as a legitimate president s and so thus they feel that its theirs. In 2000 do you think the republicans would have given in so easily the way it worked for the democrats . No. W. Would have written that beautiful speech al gore gave . No, they dont concede. If obama carries ohio which looks good as of today perhaps the main reason is he helped save the Auto Industry. The president addressed that yesterday at a rally in ohio. Lets watch and this many people believe is the key state in this election, ohio. If mitt romney had been president when the Auto Industry was on the verge of collapse, we might not have an american Auto Industry today. I wasnt about to let detroit go bankrupt or toledo go bankrupt. I bet on american workers, i bet on american manufacturing. I would do it again because that bet has paid off for ohio and for america in a big way. He believes hes going to win and you can see it there. Brand new Time Magazine poll today shows the president with a comfortable fivepoint lead nationally among likely voters, 4944, which thats ohio. Oh, god, 4944. What do you make of that . I think hes up in ohio. All the polls have him up in ohio. Its close. He doesnt have a big margin but he is ahead. Its consistent for two months hes had this lead in ohio thats ahead of all the leads in the other swing states he has. If the polls are right, which they might not be. If the polls are right obama is winning. This ad by bill clinton a strong endorsement of the president , its basically entitled hes got it right. The stuff some folks are saying about president obama sounds kinds of familiar. The same people said my ideas would destroy destroy jobs and called me every name in the book. We created 22 million jobs and created debts into surpluses. We should invest in the middle class and education and pay down our debt with spending restraint and asking the wealthy to pay a little more. Sound familiar . Lets take a look at this ad from obama, another one, this is about getting people out to vote, its the underdog ad which is the flipside of the bragging ad on their side, bragging point of view, trying to push out to the Mainstream Press and here is obama playing it differently perhaps the we try harder approach, the harry truman approach might win for him. Lets watch this ad. 537, the number of votes that changed the course of american history. Florida is too close to call. The difference between what was and what could have been. So this year, if youre thinking that your vote doesnt count, that it wont matter, well, back then there were probably at least 537 people who felt the same way. Make your voice heard. Vote. Thats my religion, thats what i really believe, every vote counts. I believe it. I tell my kids this. And it usually comes down to a choice between two candidates. You play games voting for the third party candidate. Its two people. This is about mobilizing people. In my neighborhood n my community i know people who are doing less and less excited than they were four years ago, not door knocking, not going to swing states the way they did four years ago, that has to have somewhat of an impact. They want to squeeze every vote they can out of their natural constituency. Its natural but if its so tight like this and you dont know if theres any funny business with superpack ads, Voter Suppression efforts, they just want to get everybody out that they can, and i think ads like that are, i hope are effective. There are definitely a lot of polls that show an Enthusiasm Gap with republicans just rabid, you know, determined to get obama out of office and democrats, theyre working their way toward it but not where they were in 08. Thats the main project of the Obama Campaign. Republicans there are so many haters in their midst, not all but so many haters on the right theyre going to vote, theyre going to show up. Jonathan and david, thank you as always. Heres one for obama, bruce springsteen, the boss, the singer is working on a new Campaign Song for the president. This is hardball, the place for politics. Americans are always ready to work hard for a better future. Since Ameriprise Financial was founded back in 1894, theyve been committed to putting clients first. Helping generations through tough times. Good times. Never taking a bailout. There when you need them. Helping millions of americans over the centuries. The strength of a Global Financial leader. The heart of a onetoone relationship. Together for your future. Ive got a nice long life ahead. Big plans. So when i found out medicare doesnt pay all my medical expenses, i got a Medicare Supplement insurance plan. [ male announcer ] if youre eligible for medicare, you may know it only covers about 80 of your part b medical expenses. The rest is up to you. Call and find out about an aarp Medicare Supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. 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For us to get more entangled militarily in syria is a serious step. We do need to make sure. Making absolutely certain. That they dont have arms. Arms. In the wrong hands. How about iraq . Governor romney was the decision to go into iraq . It was the right decision to go into iraq, i supported it at the time, i support it now. But do you support it now we dont want another iraq. Well i guess thats not a flipflop so much as a principled recognition of iraq wars current unpopularity. Hes so good. That was the romney etchasketch in all its glory. Also our share of obama impressions over the years but the latest alister to make an attempt, bruce springsteen, the music legend at an obama rally in virginia doing his rendition of the president and testing out a new Campaign Song, sort of. Late at night the president gives me a phone call. And hes, once, twice a week this happens, its getting kind of annoying actually. Bruce, i need a Campaign Song. A country musition wrote a song for mitt romney and i need a Campaign Song. So im thinking Campaign Song. I was having a hard time finding words that rhyme with obama, you run out of those really quick so i had a i came to virginia looking for a date we kissed and i said its a hell of a state we made love and it wasnt so great forward and away we go im not sure what that has to do with the election, but. You notice he was able to include a nice nod there to virginia, one of the allimportant swing states. Up next, obama derangement syndrome, were seeing more crazy right wing nuts out there, attempts to delegitimize, sarah palin accusing obama of shuck and jive, thats her phrase, wonderful lady, on libya. Youre watching hardball, the place for politics. Treatment as prilosec otc. Now with a fancy coating that gives you a burst of wildberry flavor. Now why make a flavored heartburn pill . Because this is america. 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The times writes a 30person focus group looked at three choices disnedsouzas 2016 obamas america, which theorizes that president s political beliefs were shaped by the radical anticolonial views of his kenyan father and dreams of my real father which posits the implausible theory that the president s real father is mr. Davis and that mr. Davis indoctrinated him early on. They receives copies of dreams of my father in the mail, Jonathan Alter and Chicago Tribune columnist clarence paige, the blatantness went through the roof, sarah palin who people have mixed views put out a Facebook Obamas shuck and jive ends with benghazi lies referring to the attack on the libyan embassy. Dog whisle is a dog whistle. Shock and jive has an ethnic connection, not bad in all cases, its slang, doesnt mean evil but to throw it at the president as an ethnic shot is blatant. For knowledge with people with plantation days, slaves the shucking of the corn would jive each other to pass the time. Thats where it comes from. Shuck and jive, yeah, thanks to you i researched this, chris, i learned things. Maybe sarah palin picked it up in her days as a sports reporter. The jumping to conclusions about benghazi theres a coverup stating it as yes its going on and we have to stop it and barack obama is guilty, blah, blah, blah, thats paranoid style of politics where you dont take into account the fact that people can make mistakes or that signals can get crossed or whatever. There were mistakes, i thought it was the 13th, its the 14th of the month. Right. When you keep doing this stuff, like at this thompson, i got nothing against tommy thompson, the kid shouts out at some event, this guy from obama is not extra chicago, no, hes from kenya, at this point in the discussion. That may be an acute negativity when trump brought it up but jonathan this trickles out every couple weeks. Trump says the president is monkeying with the unemployment numbers keeps going on over and over again, just enough to keep it in the atmosphere. To the point where today only two in five republicans in the state of ohio, only two in five agree that the president was born in this country. It does work. It bleeds into people, they hear it enough from enough people and they go it must be something there and they do it and it works. Its terrible stuff. Chris, i actually think my old friend clarence is being a little bit polite. I think is rank racism. Sometimes people on the right get very upset when people on the left charge racism, but shuck and jive, thats like talking about watermelon, for jews, talking about jews are greedy or the irish or drunk, whatever, these are racist tropes and we need to call them what they are, and i actually think at least implicitly trump was playing on racism today with his ridiculous stunt demanding obamas college transcripts. Whats the subtext of it . What is that about . Its about affirmative action. Hes basically saying barack obama was too stupid to be at columbia because he was an affirmative action student and therefore because he was affirmative action, he must not have had good enough grades to stay in college or whatever hes talking about. Its racist. Lets get serious about this. Not anybody out there thinks, people that dont hear it should hear it. Over the summer romneys surrogate and former white house chief of staff john sununu criticized president america as unamerican. The president clearly demonstrated that he has absolutely no idea how the American Economy functions. The men and women all over america who have worked hard to build these businesses, their businesses from the ground up is how our economy became the envy of the world. It is the american way. I wish this president would learn how to be an american. He said this stuff hes not just black, which is obvious, hes obviously somewhere from somewhere else, unamerican, trump keeps selling his stuff and they bite on it, hes rich, he might be smart, theres a mistake in thinking. What do you think, is this going to cull the reaction results in an election 50 50 and a couple people buy this slop because they hear it relentlessly from people that make a lot of money . A lot of us thought four years ago that once obama got elected and handily so that all of the garbage would fade away. It hasnt. There are ridiculously high numbers particularly republican think he wasnt born in america. They dont want him to. I agree its more than that, its a cultural touchstone now, like you dont think obamas really american . Well neither do i, blah, blah, blah, and you got this sudden tribal attachment now. Its sensitive. As a white person i think its a statement against the white people like this. It has nothing to do with blacks, its a sickness by the white people. They ought to be ashamed of themselves. Clarence page, thanks for coming on, miss you buddy. Up next former mayor Rudy Giuliani joiblz us to talk about the 2012 election. Its always interesting with rudy. This is hardball the place for politics. Im so g lad you called. Thank you. Were not in london, are we . No. Why . Apparently my debit card is. What . I know. Dont worry, we have cancelled your old card. Great. Thank you. In addition to us monitoring your accounts for unusual activity, you could also set up free account alerts. Okay. [ female announcer ] at wells fargo were working around the clock to help protect your money and financial information. Heres your temporary card. Welcome back. How was london . [ female announcer ] wells fargo. Together well go far. Well be right back with Rudy Giuliani talking about the far right extremists in his political party. More hardball after this. 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Make sure youre ready. At devry. Edu knowhow. Were back. Weve lived through primaries, conventions and four big debates and tonight we stand 300 hours away from the day that will decide the fates of the country and also barack obama and mitt romney. Here with me tonight to evaluate the state of the race is americas mayor, new yorks own Rudy Giuliani himself, a former president ial candidate. Welcome, mayor. Thank you, chris. Ive always been a giuliani fan and people are always amazed at that. I think you did a hell of a job with 9 11 and if youve done one thing that big in your life thats pretty big. Thanks, chris. Youve got some legs for that one. Let me ask you about this president of ours. If i and somebody told me the president of the United States went over and killed bin laden and s. E. A. L. S chose the direct route, got the guy, a guy done drone attacks, taking apart bin ladens operation, focusing on that, iraq, not anything else, eyes on the prize id say that sounds like juligiuliani what y would have done as president. I give him a lot of credit for that, for getting bin laden, i give him a lot of credit for pursuing pretty doggedly what has to be done in afghanistan, a lot of areas where i think hes failed. People inside tell me hes pretty tough, the phrase was when you get in that room with him, he gets the bad guys. Look, youre not going to have beating Hillary Clinton and john mccain and be in the competitive race for president if youre not tough. No one doubts Barack Obamas toughness. Sometimes i doubt his judgment and on domestic policies i think its been a disaster. Ill give you a shot. I think our economy is in shambles. You think. 1. 2 growth . Thats pathetic. You should be embarrassed of that. The level of unemployment for so long. The president doesnt seem to have a plan. Youre in new york you know the financial collapse it wasnt just another monetary recession. Lets suppose i was running for reelection of mayor of new york city and three and a half years later i said i took over youre in the market now. The crisis its now worse. Look where unemployment is and our deficit is. Youre doing the let me talk about this, real estate markets back, unemployment is down to 7. 8. I admit the next one will be the crucial one that comes in, in a month. You win the party, you got the points in there, the economy is not right. Debris with you. Youre pro choice, i think youre open to the idea of samesex marriage, no enemy of it. Youre in a party now that is run by the people who dont believe in any of that. Look at your platform and the people who write the platform like mourdock the other day that you know, even if you have a rape, the woman cant make a decision about the pregnancy. You got a guy out there says if you really werent raped, whatever that means, then youre really not having like you can will your way out of a pregnancy. You have some looney soons on the right. Who is the last moderate in the senator, suzanne collins, olympia snowe, are llen specters kicked out of the party. Where would you be in the caucus . How could you, they wouldnt like you. Seven out of ten issues not ten out of ten. I work for Ronald Reagan and Ronald Reagan used to say if a man agrees with me eight out of ten times thats about good enough to have a political party. Is that still good enough in the party . It better be because he cant really govern unless you have that view and i think all said and done i think thats the way mitt romney looks at things. I watched mitt romney as governor of massachusetts, what i saw there as a practical man, a man who knows how to make it. Is that guy still controlling the situation after all the promises . Everybody unfortunately runs differently than they govern. Barack obama was against mandates. Weve got a mandate because it was the practical outcome of the discussions with pelosi and reid. I think if you look to the way myth govern mitt governed in massachusetts thats about the way hell govern as president. Jesse in california said if you cant drink their booze, eat their food and sleep with their women and vote against them in the morning you shouldnt be in this business. Do you think youre laughing because youve heard it before. Do you think governor romney is that ruthless so say ill go with my robes on at liberty university, sign on to the neocons but in the end ill be a man of judgment. How does he cut the ties with those people . Glue dont cut the ties with them. Practical decisions is he a moderate . Practical decisions come along and you make the best possible decision. Your ideology guides you but doesnt control you. Ronald reagan lowered taxes, and two times he raised taxes because he got a good deal with tip oneill and made a good deal. I was there. So heres a man believed in cutting taxes. Taxes but youll him a better deal on military defense. So your sense is ive heard insiders ive talked to a top guy, i like him, i disagree and hes very close to the president ial candidate. He says the neo krz don serve tiffs say hes a practical guy. He comes from business, he doesnt come from the academic world or political world. So he hasnt had a long time to develop this rigid ideology. Hes become a problem solver. By instinct, you dont do it on purpose, you thats the way youre going to govern. Would you like to be attorney general under romney . I like what im doing. Im looking at sununu and the way hes been behaving. I think hes going to the vatican. Im not looking for a job, no. Im really happy. Youre not im not interested. No. Lets take a look at this question that some of the wheel whackos in your party say, Rudy Giuliani, pro choice, pro guy opportunity generally. Then you have these guys like todd akin who grew up in new york city as crazy. They dont strike me as crazy. What about the statements that you cant get pregnant when youre raped. I took biology in high school. The ancient warss men would rape the women to make the point. I understand why he said what he said. Why . Because i think what hes talking about is and this is sort of catholic theology, right . Something bad happens, did god will it or not . I think what he was trying to say is god doesnt will a rape. God gives human beings free will and they make bad choices. Criminalizing a woman for not having a baby . No. Whats ee talking about . By the way, i agree with your fill loss see, but should the law penalize a woman that was raped . Do you think he does . He just said so . Im not sure he really does. You need to help these guys. They say terrible things, he didnt really mean that. He said it. Hes running for the senate. A lot people say things stupidly, con torted. What about akin, you cant get pregnant by raich . That was stupid. That shouldnt have been running for pregnant. Lets go over this. Theres no difference. You get these guys, i like them. They are a very good candidate. Big support. You oppose him on every front. How do you explain that . I dont know the conversations they had. They supported me in part because i signed the first i think i signed the first domestic partnership. If it wasnt the first, it was the second in the country. Big controversy at the time. Ive never accepted the idea of guy marriage. I still believe it should be a marriage of men and women. Im in favor of domestic partnerships, civil unions and im also in favor of states making their own decision. If theoretically believe in states rights and not big federal government, you should be in favor of, let massachusetts decide one thing and lets let South Carolina do you think a woman has a right to have an abortion if she chooses to do that . I do. My church disagrees your party says a fertilized a second after the conception should have the right to 14th amendment what does your party say after the right to property. What does that mean . Its in your document. Ive never agreed to the entire glsh do you ever read it . Do you ever laugh at it . Did i ever read it . What would be the Property Rights . That means women dont have rights but the unfertilized egg has rights. In any event see, youre a lawyer. If you become attorney general for romney, you have to enforce this kind of thing. He doesnt believe that. The candidate of the party. Yeah. Believes that abortion should be available in the case of rape, in the case of incest, and in the case of danger of the life of mother. So the candidate of the party believes that. Thats whats going to happen. Why would he pick paul ryan who believes in the personhood . Flexible man out there. I love the way you explain these guy. You would be a great criminal attorney, especially when the guy is guilty. Let me return with the slime we keep hearing from the far right and the president ial candidate that wont stand up to it. Lets play hardball, a place for politics. [ female announcer ] beef, meet flavor boost. Flavor boost, meet beef. Its swanson flavor boost. Concentrated broth to add delicious flavor to your skillet dish in just one stir. Mmm [ female announcer ] cook, meet compliments. Get recipes at flavorboost. Com. [ female announcer ] cook, meet compliments. Let me finish tonight with this. Sarah palin just put on her Facebook Page shuck and jive ends with benghazi lies. Shes talking about the president of the United States, of course. The guy donald trump accuses from being from another country and his delightful word, monkeying with the jobless numbers, the guy who continues to call him a minority who couldnt have gotten to where he was without some help because, you know, hes black. This endless spewing of garbage that belittles not garbage but the people who eat it up. And the food Stamp President , about welfare and the Obama Campaign or the president is dumping the work requirements so he could help, quote, his base. And the low information voters who could be reached by this stuff. Look at the numbers in ohio, for example, where only two in five republicans are willing to say president obama was born in the United States. Do you believe it . And it works all right. You think about how it affects the results and if it does, think two weeks from now, if romney benefits from this slime of never having to stop it, saying, no, im not taking this kind of help. Im not having this. He never says it. 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