supporters of jair bolsonaro attacked the institutions in an event that was similar to what here on january 6. and there will be talking about other issues such as environment and of course immigration. that is important from countries such as venezuela which is a neighbor to brazil and many coming to the united states. there was actually one other question that we asked president biden, what is his immigration policy going to look like in the coming months once the pandemic emergency gets to an end and title 42 is lifted? and this is what he said -- yeah, go ahead. >> i just wanted to pause you there because we're seeing lula arriving. let's just listen for a second. see if we could hear anything.