election in 2018, won his re-election here for governor by 14 percentage points. this is still by all accounts, you can talk to folks on both sides of the aisle, this is a conservative state. so what the democrats here need to do is bring over some of those more independent or conservative voters that are against trump and trump acolytes. that's where you see katie hobbs, the democratic runner for governor and kelly separate of one another, independent of one another, and that goes to the down ballot for the secretary of state, and it stands in stark contrast to the republicans, kari lake has been trying to drag the likes of blake masters, and mark finchem over the finish line, the republican slate of candidates appearing together last night with the likes of steve bannon. and then that gets to the roots. they still need democrats in arizona to show up and vote here. this is the first time, you will see president obama, holding a rally in the state of arizona, in 15 years here, and the idea over the course of the last 15 years that obama who lost in