the other type of exemption has been a religious exemption. that i don't agree with. i don't think there should be a religious exemption in the face of a major killer pandemic like we're experiencing, too easy to game that and i don't think it's going to be safe for people just to keep climbing that religious reasons keeping them from getting vaccinated. the medical exemptions, yes. we'll have to have a mechanism for dealing with that. >> right. >> the whole idea here is to get everybody vaccinated with as many people as possible. still have a problem because children under the age of 12 are not eligible for vaccination. so that's the problem. we want the kids to go back to school. i think is desperately important they go back to in-person classrooms in the fall. we have to recognize that children will not be vaccinated. one of the reasons i've been