he reaches beyond the room, the less he's trying to move votes in the room. >> and she was able to respond with the facts. she was able to respond with what she actually did and why. but i want to ask you, joyce, about the value of being for lack of a better word, real. of a nominee, not just showing intellectual prowess, disposition, command of the law all important, but humanity. it to play what judge jackson said about accusations that she's soft on sex predators. >> as a mother, these cases involving sex crimes against children are harrowing, but i think it's important to understand is that trial judges who have to deal with these cases are presented with the evidence. or descriptions, graphic descriptions. these are the cases that wake