i think what i say to folks is they should not listen to politicians. they should listen to their own pediatrician, and they should listen to our nation's pediatricians, the american academy of pediatrics which i think has been a fabulous leader in terms of the pandemic trying to protect kids. there's no question in my mind kids 5 to 11 should be getting vaccinated. i have a 9-year-old i don't know he's excited about getting a needle but he's excited about getting vaccinate. and he will. and the bottom line is people need to have that conversation with a pediatrician, go to a trusted source and make a good decision for their family. >> people are starting to make their holiday plans, taking requests in. i know it's preliminary until when this all starts to rollout, but what are you seeing in terms of the upcoming holiday? are we going to have multigenerational gatherings, kids, grandparents with covid