asked about the idea of is this a referendum on joe biden. and this is a pretty -- this is a national election. it is not, just virginia, but it is nationalized. >> terry mcauliffe is mr. democrat. best friend of the clintons. joe biden will be there tomorrow. stacey abrams on sunday. they are doing whatever it takes to get out the vote and can they do that. donald trump is no longer in office. so can they do it post-trump. >> i'd be remiss if we did not note that we've had terry mccain call live on our show. glenn youngkin, we'd still love to talk to him. and you are an arizona guy so i have to ask you about kyrsten sinema. the "new york times" is reporting while this big reconciliation bill is in europe, she is in europe for a fundraising trip? >> right. "new york times" reporting that she is in paris fundraising for the democratic senatorial committee. we have not heard back from her