then the president immediately tried to distance himself from him, and regardless of whether the president remembered interacting with him, i think that could be frustrating for parnas, so his attorney says he will invoke the fifth amendment, if there is something that he feels like he can't answer without incriminating himself, but it would be very beneficial to democrats, on these committees, to get more information about what exactly he was working on with rudy giuliani, when they were looking for information about joe biden and other democrats in ukraine that could be damaging to them. >> let's circle back for a moment to the republican push to try and reveal the whistle-blower's identity. many trump officials say he has no right to stay hidden as we played in some of the clips earlier. how is this going to affect the impeachment process? >> well, i don't think that these calls for outing the whistle-blower are going to go away. you know, the whistle-blower is