you would want me on your side if you was in trouble. >> the popstar producer and broadcaster -- a child sex abuser. 100% innocent of the convictions. and my lawyer giovanni di stefano guarantees me that the conviction will come under appeal. >> giovanni di stefano had no moral scruples at all. morality never came into his equation. giovanni wanted to take on the impossible. it would be wrong. >> because his name was harold shipman, he should not win the appeal. >> as much as i was -- he got [inaudible] high and mighty people. >> we had a video conference. he confirmed that he was not a participant in the great train