georgia was kind of saying it was, it is very difficult to contain that. unfortunately, it has to burn itself out sometimes. >> ruth, thanks as always. we appreciate you being with us and letting us understand these things through your lens. a very important lens that really shines bright right now. thanks so much for. that ruth ben-ghiat is a professor at nyu. many, you and i, you were talking about how long you spent talking to ruth about these things. you and i were in hungry, where they are not very democratic leader is sort of in cahoots with the republican party here. fox news has gone over and done shows in hungary, viktor orban comes and speaks at cpac. nobody is hiding from this. >> no, this is a party white phenomenon. this is will be on trump now. trump's, and whatever you want to call, it fascism, and this is a party infected by its. and when orban comes and speaks and gets cheered, that's a reminder. also, by the way, ali, a lot of