for corporate america. so the issue with doing retail politics, they are not offering any policy solutions. what is the solution? we will get hunter? we will impeach joe biden? we will shut down the government and we want the stock market tank the next 12 months? who does that help? >> to maybe wax a little bit poetic about donald trump is not something i'm prone to doing, he does strike an emotional chord with -- he is really -- will get rid of this media analyst, you i will get rid of your, enemies i will get rid of everything and politics, and i will rule as a strongman. it is a comforting idea. >> the -- he taps into a rage that is a very you know, satisfying to some people. >> in your first term, but then you have to deliver policies, which is potentially what he lost a second. >> the bottom line though is, i don't think that republicans care about policy, because what was the issue that came up, or before any other issue in this debate tonight. the border? it is nowhere near iowa.