that have happened throughout the course of this race. literally, we are in a call, a bar if you will, and one of them is on television. i'm like, this is the at. they all talked about how disheartening it is. it's motivating for them to want to get out and vote. i think conventional wisdom says folks are paying attention and not necessarily engaged. a lack of democratic enthusiasm. i saw in wisconsin and engaged electorate, young people, women, black voters, in the city of milwaukee, who want to see the first black united states representative. >> i think about ron johnson, you bring about the point which is a future podcast idea. what happened to you, man? >> i will be listening. >> we came up with that in the commercial break. ron johnson had this moment in the debate, you guys remember this? mandela barnes is asked what something good about your opponent. he says, he's a good family man. ron johnson response, he is a good family man. -- >> why does he hate america? and that, right there, each of