mind these things up, it does show the significance of this piece of the puzzle that jim has highlighted. >> i think that the sort of enduring story is that there is money unanswered questions about trump and his affinity for putin, and putin, and what he wanted and what he got from trumpists -- there still hasn't finances from -- the time's extraordinary coverage. jim, thanks for writing the piece, thanks for taking the time to talk to us about it. mark, thanks for being here in walking us through it. really grateful to both of you. thank you. when we come back, it was, as we've been discussing, at the heart of trump's first impeachment. that so-called perfect phone call between donald trump and ukrainian players didn't zelenskyy. next, we talk to people who are on the call. we'll be right back with that. back with that. for fast sore throat relief, try vicks vapocool drops with two times more menthol per drop*, and the powerful rush of vicks vapors for fast-acting relief you can feel. vicks vapocool drops. fast relief you can feel.