trying to be indiscriminate? if we see that in ukraine, it will be devastating and horrifying. >> do you think it changes the calculation any country is making about what we're willing to do? >> i think it does. of what the nato countries are willing to do. the amount of weaponry that is now flowing into ukraine has increased, but i think if the war starts to spread outside of the borders of ukraine, that's a very, very dangerous situation. >> we're so lucky to have all of you. ambassador, michael mcfaul, evelyn, rick. thanks so much for spending so much time. the number of ukrainians fleeing their country is staggering and there are new warnings that millions of people could leave ukraine in the coming days. a live report from the border with poland after a quick break. stay with us. with poland after a quicbrk eak. stay with us