point about the use of the word, imminent. these are people's lives in their home country that we're talking about. tell us what the right word to use is. does it feel imminent to them? >> reporter: so, until today, i don't think the ukrainians viewed it as imminent. what's changed here, and it's important, is the state of emergency that's been announced. it's a country that is very much preparing for some sort of wide scale invasion. making sure they know who's traveling where. for the ukrainians, you had the cyber attacks. the banks got hit. i was listened to richard engel where he was talking about the city of maripol where 20% would fight for the russians, 20% for the ukraines would leave.