has some criminal exposure, and if the department of justice signs off on allowing congress to immunize him, to get his true testimony without the opportunity to assert the fifth amendment, that means they're not interested in investigating him. >> wow. more questions than answers today, i'm sorry to say. greg bluestein, dan goldman, thank you so much for spending some time with us. when we come back, does vladimir putin stand to gain by risking war? the answer, according to the "atlantic's" anne apple baum may go far beyond ukraine. e apple by e apple by go far beyond ukraine. (excited yell) woo-hoo! ensure max protein. with thirty grams of protein, one gram of sugar, and nutrients to support immune health. (music) one gram of sugar, ♪ i think to myself ♪ ♪ what a wonderful world ♪