covid and the demands of the office and been a way in which the white house is finding is a great way for him to have a connection more to sort of the -- he's a tactical politician and on the ground stuck in washington for so long. >> there is a thing, too, eli, about a president feeling -- i'm thinking of palin's word is unshackled. to pop out of the bubble and bring everyone in the bubble but the psychology for any president to get out of washington and see streets lined with people that like them and it seems like this is a right moment for this president and this white house to sort of change up the routines. >> >> i think that's right. the president for one reason or another was not able to travel as much as he liked and this