stand for -- they used to stand for policies that might have been unpopular on the left, but never outright lies and flagrant misinformation that's getting their own voters killed -- what is the plan to try to stop him? >> look, it wouldn't be unreasonable for people to say hey, guys, where have you been. but the good news there are people close to trump, senior folks who have not yet spoken out against him are coming to the realization this could happen again and to stop it there needs to be a full-fledged political plan first in 2022 to blunt his momentum. because again, people close to trump say he's going the base his on 2024 and how he goes about it on how he does and how his candidates do in the mid terms. they are in the midst of raising north of $100 million to soften the battlefield for him in the next presidential race. what can people do? at a bare minimum folks need to