and -- our key to piecing together this story, especially as mark meadows is now being held in criminal contempt. we're not sure if he's going to get prosecuted by the justice department. that's an announcement we're expecting to come imminently. in the next week, potentially, or coming weeks, but without meadows actually cooperating with the committee, these are conversations that the committee cannot get more information on, hence why you're going to see them start moving out to figures like sean hannity to glean as much information as possible prior to them pivoting to this public phase of the investigation. >> matt, i want to bring you into this. it's clear from the lines of investigation that they reveal their letters, in their invitations to sean hannity to meet voluntarily with them, that the investigation has moved directly to donald trump. what he did and did not do, leading up to the insurrection and as it unfurled, and this interest in understanding why