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author of about a million books. the most recent one "evil geniuses." barbara, i want to start with you about this subpoena thing. we keep saying that it's a rubicon to cross for the -- this committee to decide they're going to subpoena a sitting member of congress. is that as big a deal as we think it is? not only is it unusual, but like what are the actual practical implications and consequences of that as we look at them? >> well, john, as a matter of professional courtesy, members of congress are always very careful about how they treat their fellow members. the idea of questioning a fellow member of congress was already kind of out there. subpoenaing a fellow member of congress may strike some as a bridge too far. but i think, you know, the time has come and gone for niceties. we saw what happened on january 6th.

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