eugene's argument. >> i don't know if it is bristly. but i think eugene is right. i think frankly most of the committee members would agree with eugene. but i think what the frustrated public and media needs to remember is, you have got to put the facts together before you present the facts. they are interviewed nearly 00 people. you are not going to want to have hearings with 300 people. that's going to be boring. it's going to be useless. and it is not going to tell the story. it is not dissimilar to what we did with the ukraine impeachment. we had closed door depositions, there were calls for it to be done in public. then we did have public hearings. >> uh-huh. >> that enabled us to tell a story through the witnesses. of course, we weren't making anything up, but we were able to idea the relevant and valuable portions of their ten hours of testimony and pull it out in a shorter hearing. we are going the want that.