higher than the statewide average in ohio n. michigan, the vast majority of hospitalized patients in ohio are unvaccinated. here's where we are dr. redlener, this summer's delta peak we had 102,000 case as day. last winter's winter peak, before problem took office, was 137,000 cases a week. we are right in between those two numbers, those two peaks at 119,000 case as day. where are we heading? >> well, nowhere good, nicolle. and the interesting thing is, i think we are all saying the same thing, is that when you look at those numbers, who are these people? these people are those who are so taken in by a political ideology, they will make decisions that are against their own -- not only their best interests, but against their lives, against their possibility of surviving the pandemic, which is astounding. and by the way, the other thing that's very concerning, of