>> calamari is an intriguing figure in the trump organization. he is the chief operating officers but he doesn't have the credentials you would usually expect someone in that position to have. he came to trump's attention because he was being a particularly effective bouncer at a tennis match. he went to work for trump in a capacity as a security guard, and he gained trump's confidence when he was working as trump's personal security guard. so one has a little bit of a sense here he may not have had involvement in the complex financial dealings, but there's the intriguing possibility that he has some insight into trump's mindset and how trump was talking about events as they occurred before they were under legal scrutiny. >> nick confessore, having covered now multiple investigations into the ex-president, there's a sense when things are opaque that they've quieted down. i think with the journal report,