this kind of international terrorist organization running afghanistan i think is a bit of a misconception. i don't -- i'm not privy to the intelligence or what the secretary said about isis or al qaeda reconstituting themselves. but afghanistan has not been for 20 years and people don't anticipate that it will be, a terrorist haven the way there are other places in the world that are terrorist havens, where, by the way, we don't have troops on ground. that's historically been the situation for us. is how we've tried to stop terrorism through the group, not through having boots on ground but through intercepting it before it begins. >> catty kay, such a braid of i think painful sort of ptsd inspiring issues for the american military, for american allies, for the afghan allies who helped us, our interpreters for the women and girls and anyone that is worked on this