because of what we know he tried to do with doj, and half of the nation would go "amen, this has to happen" and the other half would go "deep state political hatchet job." that's where we are. >> frank, explain to me more why you think it is the right thing that trump sends some video he sees on twitter to bill barr and bill barr tells the fbi to investigate, why is that a good thing? >> well, i don't know what -- i can't get inside bill barr's head and figure out what his intentions were, but the outcome as betsy explained was actually that there was no fraud found. that may have enabled barr and others to go back to the white house and say, it ain't here, we don't have it. the bureau looked at it, and you are going to have big trouble if you try to push this any further. i think for that reason it is helpful. did it -- the intangible here, did their presence fuel further conspiracy that this was real or the fbi wouldn't have looked at