relationship with putin but that's not how putin or russia operates. so he is going to have to have the backing of european countries to say don't do this and that and this is what we want from you. this is the big eight days for president biden and i feel like we oversell the importance of some things but with america's place in the world there's no better, no more important point. in his presidency than right now frankly. >> you know, a.b. eugene made the right points of what's at stake and sometimes foreign trips aren't the lead story. right? when a president is overseas. there is so much at stake here and you have all made this point in different ways but i wonder if i can push you on this sort of joe biden in the room point. i want to bring you both in on this, as well, as you both have