and president trump losing the election. a party willing to use putin-style disinformation tactics to hold power, to erode democracy and really flirt with the authoritarianism. so it is a -- i think that joe biden is as ready as any president can be. he is eloquent about the need to nurture and bolster and sustain democracies but he faces a challenge like no other because the world is never looked at the u.s. this way. very worried about what will happen in a midterm elections and 2024 presidential elections. they have the same conversations that we have here about what the republican party has done since the 6th of january let alone the last five years and that behind the scenes will be a steep challenge for joe biden. >> rick, i want to come back to you on exactly that point because so many people have said that we live in this short