interference. >> but was there concern about doing the investigations or what? were they justns supposed to ma a statement about it? what? >> ambassador sondland very clearly testified that all he ever heard mr. giuliani or anyone say is that they only needed the public announcement of the investigations. >> and so did the committee find that without that public statement that there would be no white house meeting? >> yes. >> so>> i was struck by how cle the evidence seems to be on this point. and i'd like to play another example.li >> was there a quid pro quo? as i testified previously with regard tofi the requested white house call and the white house meeting, the answer is yes. everyone was in the loop. >> did he find that his role-played a role in the white house? >> the evidence showed that