we move to the judiciary committee next week, just keeping on this simple message. because the american people by and large, there is an information deficit out there on all of this stuff. and they basically understand what trump did was wrong. in fact, i think 70%, 80% of the country, even republicans understand what he did was wrong. the question is how do you get them to the point where they support impeaching him? and that's where you tie in the bribery argument. >> just to make another point about the degradation of american foreign policy. you have trump telling bill o' reilly in that interview, well, rudy had a lot of other clients as if that's a defense. that is what fiona hill is talking about when she refers to rudy as being a foreign policy nightmare. because when you have an unofficial channel and that person might have their own personal business interests all mixed up with the national interests of the united states, that is a problem. that is what begets corruption that rudy is supposedly a corruption warrior.