and the performances that took place over the last couple of weeks. the president spending 53 minutes on fox news this morning. do you have a job, do you work? how do you have 53 minutes on television, right? but that's the point. the most important job is to dumb down the conversation and to drive home the narrative that just as there was no collusion there is still no quid pro quo. >> do you think anybody believes that? >> yes. a lot more than we probably want to admit. and you're going to hear a lot of that this thanksgiving dinner around turkey. >> see, i think they believe it because donald trump said it. i think they don't care. i mean, i don't disagree on the politics. but i actually think this is different. i think that they bought there was no collusion because, as friends of donald trump will tell you privately, they don't think he is smart enough to collude with vladimir putin. but i think everybody thinks that he's dirty enough to have held over the head of a fragile